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jondrowjf@gmail.com Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 652
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:46 am Post subject: Beater horn |
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Conn Director cornet, King 600 cornet/trumpet would all be great beater horns.
If you don't care about dents,pings or lacquer loss many choices out there for under $70 dollars. There are many lower priced cornets/trumpets listed on shopgoodwill. http://shopgoodwiil.com
Shaye Cohn of Tuba Skinny plays well with a beater horn. _________________ No musical instrument at this time.
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ljazztrm Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Dec 2001 Posts: 2681 Location: Queens and upstate, NY
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Looks like some great deals on Getzen Eternas on EBAY right now.. Can't really go wrong with those.. I'd get one myself but my next horn is.. a LYNNZHORN! Best, Lex _________________ Mpcs: Jim New-Manley Jazz1/Jazz2/Jazz4/Lead3. Legends MF1. Reeves 39EX/HV. Frost 39MVD. Flugel: Jim NewMF3. Jim New-Manley F1+F2. Pickett MF. Reeves HF.
Trumpets: THE LYNNZHORN!!/Stomvi Forte pocket
Flugel: Manchester Brass Pro Model
Www.LexSamu.com |
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mr_evertonia Regular Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 49
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:30 am Post subject: |
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"Conn Director cornet, King 600 cornet/trumpet would all be great beater horns.
If you don't care about dents,pings or lacquer loss many choices out there for under $70 dollars. There are many lower priced cornets/trumpets listed on shopgoodwill. http://shopgoodwiil.com
Shaye Cohn of Tuba Skinny plays well with a beater horn."
my favorite answer so far ... thanks Jon, I spotted a couple of King 601's and am bidding. I agree about Shaye Cohn, she's one of my favorite players around town, complete mastery of a cup mute.
Thanks to all for the advice, I don't want to spend much, this is a wonderful city but the likelihood of damage to, or theft of an instrument is always high. I like the idea of the leadpipe and love the sound of the Ambassador but that $100 instrument will suddenly become a lot more valuable. As for taking my Eclipse out with me .... ummm no. I did it one time and had several comments about obvious value of the instrument.....
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jondrowjf@gmail.com Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 652
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:09 pm Post subject: Beater horn |
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Recently bought a Bach CR 300 cornet off shopgoodwill for $55.00 dollars included shipping. It was labeled as a Bundy cornet. After adjusting the valve guides correctly, it is a great sounding horn.
Isn't the idea of busking to look like you need donations? If you look to rich, you don't get donations. _________________ No musical instrument at this time. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Beater Horn |
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Bill Blackwell wrote: | mr_evertonia wrote: | I'm looking for suggestions as to what to buy to use as a 'beater' horn, I live in new Orleans and do a fair bit of street / parade playing and there's no way I'm going to take my Eclipse out on those kinds of gigs ... Does anyone have any suggestions as to something I might pick up cheaply to use for this kind of work? |
I had this very issue when I was younger - after going through what you are for many years I decided to use my 'good' horn all the time.
Stop worrying about it and just use what your comfortable with for everything. It's not a piece of jewelry - it's a trumpet that's meant to be played!!! |
Even though I'm always cautious with my horns, I've sort of come to the same conclusion. Unless I have a gig where I think the chances of horn damage are really high, I use whichever horn I think best suits the job...or in many cases, to be honest, whichever one I feel like using.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8331 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Beater Horn |
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Brad361 wrote: | Bill Blackwell wrote: | mr_evertonia wrote: | I'm looking for suggestions as to what to buy to use as a 'beater' horn, I live in new Orleans and do a fair bit of street / parade playing and there's no way I'm going to take my Eclipse out on those kinds of gigs ... Does anyone have any suggestions as to something I might pick up cheaply to use for this kind of work? |
I had this very issue when I was younger - after going through what you are for many years I decided to use my 'good' horn all the time.
Stop worrying about it and just use what your comfortable with for everything. It's not a piece of jewelry - it's a trumpet that's meant to be played!!! |
Even though I'm always cautious with my horns, I've sort of come to the same conclusion. Unless I have a gig where I think the chances of horn damage are really high, I use whichever horn I think best suits the job...or in many cases, to be honest, whichever one I feel like using.
Brad |
I agree though I'll exempt pep band and marching band from that. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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giakara wrote: | Used eterna for $500 and forget everything else.
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HAH!
Mid-60s Buescher Aristocrat. Half the price, twice the horn.
(Half the price is accurate. Twice the horn? Never played an Eterna.)
Tom _________________ 1950 Buescher Lightweight 400 Trumpet
1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet
1939 Buescher 400 Cornet
GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3826 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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VetPsychWars wrote: | giakara wrote: | Used eterna for $500 and forget everything else.
Regards |
HAH!
Mid-60s Buescher Aristocrat. Half the price, twice the horn.
(Half the price is accurate. Twice the horn? Never played an Eterna.)
Tom |
I remember a story back in 2009 , my mate in Athens big band had a trip to van laar shop and got a brand new sparkling 3100€ gold plated CF model that he and I also real liked , at the same time he get a old Severinsen eterna from ebay for 250 € and one day we had a gig and he comes with the eterna, I ask him why you did get the CF and he told me that some times the eterna plays for him the same or better .........
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
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BGinNJ Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:45 am Post subject: |
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It's not hard to find a newer US Holton T602 for less than $200. I had one that was in great shape I won for about $60.
I gave it away, and recently found myself wanting a nicer beater for outdoor gigs, etc. I found a newer version Silver Flair in very good condition, it's an under rated horn that doesn't command a premium. |
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operagost Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 104
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't use a brass bell director. The Coprion models cost about 25% more, but they're worth it. Rounder tone, better feedback.
Yamaha YTR-232, 2320, 2335 are also good. Nice volume on the street. |
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1jazzyalex Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jun 2016 Posts: 569 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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mr_evertonia wrote: |
If you don't care about dents,pings or lacquer loss many choices out there for under $70 dollars. There are many lower priced cornets/trumpets listed on shopgoodwill. http://shopgoodwill.com
Simon |
Fixed the URL for ya, the current one takes me to a car sales site ... probably run by a guy who thinks he's good, named Wiil. _________________ Yamaha 8335LA with Blessing 3C, 5C, Schilke 11A4A |
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jadickson Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 1294 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Street performing in New Orleans means you are playing trad jazz, right?
Why not get a vintage Conn 80A for a few hundred bucks? _________________ Justin Dickson
Middle school band director. Still learning.
www.BandmateTuner.com |
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