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What model is a Conn Naked Lady?


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JoeLoeffler
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just to clear this up in case someone has a question... There was no "Naked Lady" model. People are referring to bell engraving on horns (all different types and models) that include an art nude. Various types of fancy engraving could be ordered on (AFAIK) any of the Conn pro instruments.


Thank you, Joe. Maybe I wasn't specific enough. I'm not interested in the engraving, as such. I'm interested in if there is a trumpet that is analogous to the Conn 6M and 10M saxes, which just happen to be identified by Naked Lady engraving.



No. As I mentioned previously -engraving options are completely separate from model number or instrument type. If you wanted to pay for fancy engraving on whatever kind of instrument, they would do it. The engraving was done before the instrument was finished. There is no guarantee that it would be an above-average instrument in any category other than the visual aesthetic.

Here is a quote from the Conn Loyalist website saxophone section https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnArticle43.html to give you another angle on your question and hopefully clear up your misconception.

"There is no Naked Lady model. "Naked Lady" refers to the style of engraving that often appeared on the instruments. In spite of persistent rumor to the contrary, Dr. margaret Downie-Banks, an acknowledged expert on all things Elkhart-Conn, insists that the presence or absence of a so-called "Naked Lady" engraving or the degree of naked-ness has absolutely no relation to the instrument in terms of quality or otherwise. These "Naked Lady" engravings are usually found on "Standard" series saxophones, hence the incorrect idea that the engraving signifies that model and/or a better built instrument. The Naked Lady engraving can also frequently be found on Conn euphoniums and sousaphones, but only very rarely on Conn cornets, trumpets or trombones of the same period. "
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Joe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1jazzyalex wrote:
I remember reading somewhere that the engravers who did a lot of the "Naked Lady" engravings were actually a fairly stodgy old couple. :lol:

Edit: A couple of fairly stodgy old brothers http://momie.org/thestenbergbrothershistory.html


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a nice example of a Victor that looks like every lever and screw is in place:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/332309210390?_trksid=p11010.c100352.m3747&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150112095601%26meid%3D8ca34db84bb4426080db7cfcf4685631%26pid%3D100352%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D132263628052&ul_noapp=true
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