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sthomas98 Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:00 pm Post subject: Jazz Transcription |
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Does anyone have any special techniques when transcribing jazz solos? I've started doing this more frequently, and I find it very hard when I'm trying to write down something being played at a million miles-per-hour, and I usually don't have matching chord sheets for the songs I transcribe. Does anyone have any sort of software/program they use to slow down fast jazz solos when transcribing, to make it a little easier to hear each note to write down? |
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Gonzalez Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Amazing SlowDowner _________________ Van Laar OIRAM light I
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:03 am Post subject: |
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If you do it a whole lot, like every day, eventually your ear will get to the point where you don't need to slow it down so much.
But more importantly, when transcribing, I don't think you shouldn't be going directly from the recording to the paper. You should listen to the recording and then learn to play it by ear. Only after you've learned it by ear should you put it on the page.
So the process should go:
1) Listen to a phrase over and over until you can sing it exactly (this is crucial!)
2) Play it over and over on your instrument until you can exactly match the rhythm, articulation, and phrasing
3) Write it down
4) Proceed to next phrase
If you do the above, you likely won't even need to slow passages down. Get it in your ear by singing it, then transfer that to your instrument, then write it down, and you'll be good.
That's how I was taught, anyway! Your mileage may vary! There are a whole lot of different ways to learn jazz, good luck to ya. _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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djpearlman Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:58 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Turkle. I most use Logic to isolate and loop phrases, but the Looper for Youtube is very handy too.
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homebilly Heavyweight Member
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Superscope half speed deck is my arm of choice _________________ ron meza (deadbeat jazz musician) & (TH 5 post ghost neighborhood watch ringleader)
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I've found it very helpful, ref. transcribing the chords, to transcribe the bass first.
Then to hear where the major climaxes and how they're lead up to.
Then to play hunt&peck to fill in the connecting chords. I also, at times notate the rhythms alone, adding the melody to that next. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:57 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | I've found it very helpful, ref. transcribing the chords, to transcribe the bass first. |
That's a great tip!
It's funny, I'm out of practice, and so when I was transcribing a Dexter Gordon solo a little while ago I had a bear of a time. When I was doing a few phrases every day, I could just whip right through them. You really do have to keep your ears in shape as much as your chops! _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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halfgreek12 Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:33 am Post subject: |
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You can slow down in youtube keeping the same pitch to .75, .5 and .25 just using the settings (under HD gear).
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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halfgreek12 wrote: | You can slow down in youtube keeping the same pitch to .75, .5 and .25 just using the settings (under HD gear).
Steve |
Anybody remember when you used records and when you slowed them down it went at half speed, which was great - - and sounded an octave lower, which was not so great? LOL _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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utkwhite@gmail.com New Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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The more you transcribe, the easier it will get. Its the first few that are the most difficult. |
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