Best method books for the comeback player: beyond clarke...

blbaumgarn · Heavyweight Member Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 705

I just started trying again after about 17 years. I am 67 and had sold my horns after divorce and have had the urge to play many times but didn't follow through. A friend sent me an old King cornet which I pulled out and cleaned up over the weekend.
You want to talk about going back to the beginning? For now it is building a solid position on the mouth piece and playing C scale and a few chromatics. I will go and buy Arban, Colin's lif flexes, Schlossberg as soon as I get where I can play about 3-4 minutes on basic scales, etc. It is definitely worth it. Like learning something again. I missed too many years working odd shifts where I could never be in any group. Going to enjoy retirement some.

dr_trumpet · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:51 pm Post subject:

EBjazz · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:59 pm Post subject:

Thanks to those who mentioned The Arban Manual. Here is the link; https://bolvinmusic.com/product/arban-manual/
Most of my books work well for the reentry player as they have progressive lesson plans mapped out for you.

Good luck!!

Eb
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solo soprano · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject:

Sigmund Hering:

The Beginning Trumpeter
The Advancing Trumpeter
The Progressing Trumpeter
The Acheiving Trumpeter
Fifty Recreational Studies
Forty Progressive Etudes
Thirty-two Etudes
Thirty-eight Recreational Studies
Thirty Etudes
28 Melodious & Technical Etudes
Etudes in All the Major and Minor Keys
24 Advanced Etudes
15 Characteristic Etudes
23 Orchestral Etudes for the Advanced Trumpeter
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solo soprano · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:01 pm Post subject:

terpfan0512 · Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:36 pm Post subject: Books for Comeback Players

Mark Hendricks has published some fine books for comeback and developing players. They can be found on his website: www.mphmusic.com.

Regards,
Scott

strangedejavu506 · New Member Joined: 03 May 2010 Posts: 5

Thanks for making this post. I too am just getting started again after all these years. This has already helped steer me into a direction for starting up. The whole process is very overwhelming!

DaveH · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 3861

An excellent supplementary book on lip flexibility that can be used along with any other method is called Embouchure Builder by Lowell Little. It is very inexpensive and can be found at amazon.com and probably other places, too.

It is only 16 pages long and only goes up to high C (2 lines above the staff), and then not till the last couple pages.

I used this book when I first began taking lessons long ago. I still use it today and have most of it memorized. The exercises it contains are easy and are also effective as warm up material even for a more advanced player. Thus, it is useful for both beginners and advanced players alike.

I highly recommend this book for daily use with any general method book. Very useful and effective.

Dbfinn · Regular Member Joined: 30 Jan 2016 Posts: 58 Location: UK

I also recommend "Embouchure builder". As a beginner (now approaching 2 years of practice) i made the mistake of buying too many books. Now I only use that book for the first 10-15 minutes every day for my daily routine of long tones and lipslurs, then move to my routine of jazz exercises. Since then I have not stopped my progress .

kehaulani · Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:35 am Post subject:

HornnOOb · Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:20 am Post subject:

Arbans

Irons

Essential Elements 2000
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gwood66 · Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:36 am Post subject:

+1 Embouchure Builder - Used it when first start comeback

Other books I have found useful that were not mentioned.

Ernest William Complete Modern Method.
Know Your Trumpet by Lowell Little

Seymor B Fudd

TrumpetJim · New Member Joined: 14 Apr 2017 Posts: 7 Location: Ohio

try my book fundamental studies for trumpet players $20.00 jim davis 330 867 2790

deleted_user_19c01b1 · New Member Joined: 03 Apr 1996 Posts: 0

I know the thread is old, but I just finished the Clarke Elementary and wanted to mention that I think it is way too difficult for a beginner (I am comeback player but the embouchure is new after 15 years in my opinion).

I appreciate the method but the learning curve is extremely steep. After about 20 pages if you want to keep the prescribed tempo, combined with the G's above the stuff, you will likely be very frustrated. It took me 4 months with my teacher to through it, and when I open the book randomly somewhere in the middle, the exercises are still challenging provided I want to get it right 100% (which is what the author wants).

It's a good book in a sense, but pedagogically not great.

The Herring etudes are great, also the music is catchy, which helps your ears a lot.

BobD · Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:35 am Post subject:

Reviving this thread as I didn't see the John Daniels book mentioned. I've had a few comebacks and have used a lot of different methods. The John Daniels book has been the best one for me. It has lessons in the back of the book. It covers a lot in each lesson and most important is that I don't over do it if I stick to the lesson plan. Plus he has videos on Utube about some of the lessons. It's a great book. I use it in my AM practice then at night I practice scales, work out of the Coker book and transcribe Chet Baker.
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trombino · Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:34 am Post subject:

A little known but excellent book for the comeback or developing player is Lip Builder by Marty Shiner. It is available on QPress. Like the Lowell Little book it is very sequential and completely sensible. I have used it with great success with many older players to help them establish better fundamentals than they typically did decades before.

ButchA · Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:21 pm Post subject:

A "comeback player" might also want to go back to the basics and start back slowly... Getchell's book is a good place to start. Very simple, very basic, and gradually gets into time signatures and key signatures and scales.

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