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[alejandrolopezs]

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[trombahonker]

For darker, try a smaller bore (~25, maybe 26) and use a 24bb. You're prob not jiving with 23th AND a big backbore; it's probably too much volume past the cup for you.

In general, big throat/bb combos help to balance the higher resistance of deeper cups. The Bach 1 1/4c isn't really deep, so unless you're balancing a very open horn, I imagine the 23/24 is just too low of resistance, hence your

[John Mohan]

[Bflatman]

Ive been avoiding this because I am not sure whats going on.

I see a 7c to 3c as conventional pieces, and if you want warm and dark go to a 1 1/4c but you are already using a 1 1/4c so why is it not warm and dark enough already.

Warmer and darker = bigger deeper or heavier pieces

Go bigger, try a yamaha 16e4 or a megatone or a wick.

But I have to ask why the piece you have now aint working, you are up against the limit mouthpiece wise and there aint much further to go to get warmer darker and richer.

I would consult a teacher to discuss your playing habits and needs before spending money chasing tones that your playing style is not delivering on a 1 1/4c. You may need a rethink.

[dfgordon]

I general, you don't often see very large throats with the standard 10 backbore because this combination results in a very long straight section in the throat. This can upset the balance of the way the mouthpiece works as a system, affecting intonation at the register extremes, as well as giving a different feel. As suggested above, you might try a 24 backbore with a 25 of 24 throat. You might also look at a 7 or possibly even a 3 backbore (also with a 25 or 24 throat), both of which offer a darker sound and broader sound spread than the standard 10 backbore.

[Tpt_Guy]