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dbacon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:34 am Post subject: Conscious vs Subconscious Mind |
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:47 am Post subject: |
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You really should make a dedicated site for these quotes. _________________ 1975 Olds Recording trumpet
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1947 Location: WI
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:51 am Post subject: |
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stuartissimo wrote: | You really should make a dedicated site for these quotes. |
Or at least put them all in one topic that you add to via editing over time.
By the way, Woody Allen once described a college course devoted to an examination of the conscious and subconscious mind, "with many tips on how to remain conscious". _________________ "He that plays the King shall be welcome . . . " (Hamlet Act II, Scene 2, Line 1416)
"He had no concept of the instrument. He was blowing into it." -- Virgil Starkwell's cello teacher in "Take the Money and Run" |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:52 am Post subject: |
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stuartissimo wrote: | You really should make a dedicated site for these quotes. |
Concur. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
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Andy Cooper Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 1852 Location: Terre Haute, IN USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Playing a chromatic scale from g to g is a subroutine programmed into me by my 6th grade private teacher. Once called, it runs without me thinking about it.
To "call" the routine requires conscious thought - I have to recognize the pattern.
I experienced this in the past few years as my vision became worse - sight reading became a problem . I could not recognize patterns soon enough to "call" them in actual performance.
After cataract surgery, I've noticed that my ability to sight read is coming back. The subroutines were never lost - just the ability to consciously "call" them. |
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ENINCA Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 185 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:08 am Post subject: This is great |
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I love this quote, thanks. This has been on my mind lately because I find that, especially with fast, difficult passages, my mind is my worst enemy. I drill these difficult passages slowly over and over until the fingerings are in my muscle memory. And then, in performance, it's so hard for me not to think consciously "here comes that section" and then of course I fumble it. It drives me nuts. It's like I have to train myself to think about baseball or something, since I've learned how to do that in other pursuits. _________________ "Some days you get up and put the horn to your chops and it sounds pretty good and you win. Some days you try and nothing works and the horn wins. This goes on and on and then you die and the horn wins." -Dizzy Gillespie |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8921 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Halflip wrote: | By the way, Woody Allen once described a college course devoted to an examination of the conscious and subconscious mind, "with many tips on how to remain conscious". |
One of my favorite WA quotes..."I was thrown out of NYU my freshman year for cheating on my metaphysics final, you know. I looked within the soul of the boy sitting next to me." _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:52 am Post subject: |
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cheiden. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis." Attributed to Chet
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet |
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markp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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You’ve heard about the centipede who never had any trouble coordinating his 1,000 legs, until someone asked him how he managed such a feat.
He thought about it, and was never able to walk again.
William Adam and his students try to vividly visualize, or hear, the ideal sound that they want before they play. Then, they follow a short list of things they must do:
Breathe correctly
Accelerate the air
Relax and don’t let tension creep in
Blow straight out, not up or down
Then, repeat for hours and hours, days and days, years and years.
I apologize if I’m not articulating this exactly as they would, but I think that’s pretty close. |
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