Will a Bach 184ML cornet fit in a Protec PB-312 case

[Louise Finch]

[Louise Finch]

I think that music stand and band folder type are influential in what type of case you chose.

US players seem to primarily use manhasset style music stands that have a carry bag that is the right shape for carrying a band folder.

When I first started playing, people tended to use K&M stands that folded up very small. These used to be all metal and very strong for their size. Nowadays fold-up music stands seem to contain more plastic, especially on the screws, and the cheaper brands are often made of a lightweight metal with an inner tube in which the screws screw into, which wears away leaving them no longer able to be tightened. Whether these cheaper stands or the better K&M versions, most modern fold up music stands fold fairly large nowadays, and often have their own carry case with handle.
How do you carry this? Separately in its own carry case, and it is another thing to have to remember to pick up, or in some very long bag, or open topped back in which it can poke out the top of?
Also what type of band folder do you have, a cardboard foolscap one containing just the current season's programme, or some massive heavy one with 300 pieces, that even if technically would fit to some extent in an outside case pocket, you wouldn't want the weight of it over your instrument when the case is laying down, and your case would probably topple over when stood upright?

I've lived with this minor dilemma for years lol as have no doubt most of us, and I think that unless you use a manhasset style music stand and carry your music folder in your music stand bag, you ultimately end up with an instrument case and accessory bag.  You then need to decide where to carry your mutes and trumpet/cornet stand(s).

There are three options how I see it, in a mute compartment in your case, in a clip on mute bag, or in your accessory bag.

I have a Protec M400 mute bag, but there are no fixings on my John Packer double case for a mute bag, and although there maybe (I haven't looked) on my slimline Protec trumpet case, I think that clip on mute bags are pretty cumbersome.

Swapping between different instruments in different cases, it makes sense to me to keep my mutes in my accessory bag.  This then makes mute spaces in cases redundant, hence me going for small, light and reasonably protective cases, since I only have to carry them to and from my car, not fly with them or travel with them in the luggage component of a coach.

Anyway, I'll shut up now.

All the best

Lou
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Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

[Dale Proctor]

Since I prefer to carry my mutes in a hard case with my instrument, I ended up buying 2 sets of mutes - one for the cornet case and one for the trumpet case. Not the most thrifty approach, but I don’t like carrying an extra bag of mutes around. It’s just personal preference, and we all have reasons for arranging/carrying our horn junk in certain ways.

For gigs where I need both trumpet and cornet, I bought a Protec triple case. The trumpet goes in the rear slot, a set of mutes and other paraphernalia go in the center slot, and the cornet goes in the front slot. It’s a little heavy, but that leaves a hand free for opening doors, etc.
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[Louise Finch]

[Dale Proctor]

[Louise Finch]