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AB baby
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 Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:36 am Post subject: Some confusion on the 3a's, 2a's and 4a's |
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I understand most of Reinhardt's teachings and can explain them decently well if anyone were to ask me why I do this or that according to reinhardt. But there are some things that puzzle me to this day.
1- Why do 3a's raise their horn angle when descending in pitch/pivoting down?
How does this even work considering that they have a slight overbite? Take for example arturo sandoval or Ryan kisor.
2- What makes someone a 4a and not a 4? Or rather, what makes someone a 2a and not a 2?
How do they even obtain 2 legs on the bottom teeth with such a low angle and still manage to play upstream? I know that 4s usually have teeth that angle differently and that makes them have the same problem that 1's have where the air goes straight down the shank, but they fix this by pushing out the jaw, but 4a's and 2a's are just a complete mystery to me.
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Some confusion on the 3a's, 2a's and 4a's |
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| AB baby wrote: |
1- Why do 3a's raise their horn angle when descending in pitch/pivoting down?
How does this even work considering that they have a slight overbite? Take for example arturo sandoval or Ryan kisor.
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It's usually only as they move down into the low register - Low C and down. That's when you see the upwards tilt happen quite noticably. In Reinhardt Terms - they probably shouldn't.
Why it works: going down requires the apeture to open up. This can be done by receding the jaw, which keeps the pivot from bottom to top of your range one single incremental motion. However, I think for a lot of people, on trumpet, it's harder to get a big, fat sound at the bottom this way, so they play below C by turning the lower lip out, which gives a nice big apeture. It's basically a form of having a "normal" embouchure and a "low note" embouchure and a lot of folks do it.
| Quote: | | 2- What makes someone a 4a and not a 4? Or rather, what makes someone a 2a and not a 2? |
The direction of the air stream is largely a result of how much of which lip is in the cup.
If you have a lot of top lip, it will usually blow forward more than the lower lip, and the air will end up travelling dowards. If you have a lot of bottom lip in the cup, it is the one that tends to be blown forward, allowing the air to travel upwards.
The difference for IV/IVA is really just a matter of whether the lower teeth get protruded past the top teeth or not. If the lower teeth are infront of the top teeth - Type IV. If the lower teeth are behind the top teeth - IVA. Maybe it's more complicated, but that's the clearest distinction.
Type II has an underbite. I don't even know if type IIA is possible. Can someone with an underbite really pull their lower jaw backwards enough to make this a real thing? |
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