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Man Of Constant Sorrow
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| OldSchoolEuph wrote: | | Bill Blackwell wrote: | ... the Olds Mendez model, which was essentially a "beefed-up" Ambassador.
And IIRC, Olds only had one bell mandrel. Only the wraps, garnishes, and thicknesses changed. |
I'm sorry, but neither of those statements are true. |
I believe you are correct.
( And, I'm NOT SORRY for stating so.)
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Liberty Lips
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| OldSchoolEuph wrote: | | Bill Blackwell wrote: | ... the Olds Mendez model, which was essentially a "beefed-up" Ambassador.
And IIRC, Olds only had one bell mandrel. Only the wraps, garnishes, and thicknesses changed. |
I'm sorry, but neither of those statements are true. |
Could you elaborate? That claim has been made quite often on these boards, but I could never understand how they could be true. I think Zig said that in the old days they would train new employees by having them work on the student horns, but they certainly had more than just one bell mandrel at Olds. |
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shofarguy
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Liberty Lips wrote: | | OldSchoolEuph wrote: | | Bill Blackwell wrote: | ... the Olds Mendez model, which was essentially a "beefed-up" Ambassador.
And IIRC, Olds only had one bell mandrel. Only the wraps, garnishes, and thicknesses changed. |
I'm sorry, but neither of those statements are true. |
Could you elaborate? That claim has been made quite often on these boards, but I could never understand how they could be true. I think Zig said that in the old days they would train new employees by having them work on the student horns, but they certainly had more than just one bell mandrel at Olds. |
The story of Zig using his contract for student horns to train new technicians happened in the early formative days at Kanstul, not Olds. If I remember correctly, it was a contract with Buffet-Crampon under the Besson name.
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Liberty Lips
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| shofarguy wrote: | | The story of Zig using his contract for student horns to train new technicians happened in the early formative days at Kanstul, not Olds. If I remember correctly, it was a contract with Buffet-Crampon under the Besson name. |
That doesn’t mean that he didn’t do it at Olds, too. I kind of doubt that he did it at Benge. |
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