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rhatheway
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:42 am    Post subject: Is one in-bell trumpet stand as good as another? Reply with quote

Coming back to playing my trumpet after a long time off, I realized that there are now in-bell trumpet stands that make it much easier to set your horn down. The last trumpet stand I had was from about 50 years ago and it was a tall, silver metal stand that stood the trumpet up about two feet high or so (making it easy to accidentally knock over). These new in-bell stands basically let you balance the horn on its bell, but on a stand that provides stability.

In my trumpet section literally every person had a different one, so I'm curious, is there one of these in-bell stands that is better than another? Other than providing a stable platform and supporting the horn, and not scratching up the inside of the bell, is there anything else really to look for when choosing one?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhatheway - I have the 5-leg K&M trumpet stand. I like the stability and storage option. IF desired, you can store it inside the trumpet bell, within most cases. I chose not to do this for concern of denting or scratching my horns. See attached link.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was gigging regularly, I also used the K&M. And, for me, never any dents in the bell, where I routinely carried it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K&M is probably the gold standard. I have both a 3- and 5-leg version. I don't detect any difference in stability. I also have a knock-off which is not bad, but it gets lightly stuck in the bell of my C tpt when I pull it off, which makes it OK for my studio, but not for gigs.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all. Sounds like K&M gets high marks, so I'll check them out.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid the 3-legged ones, they may not wobble but they're more prone to tipping over. Ask me how I know.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K&M. Been using it since 1990 or so. Initially had the three leg variety, went to five legs when they came on the market. Never looked back.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k&M 5 leg.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Hercules.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I knew back in the seventies and eighties the taller stand made by Hamilton was the gold standard. I gave mine away when I got my first K&M mainly due to the storage space required to store the Hamilton.

I’ve regretted it since the current Hamilton stands are more cheaply made.

But for gigs where I perform seated the K&M is my go to.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, if you do most of your playing standing - then the Hamilton stand but for trombone. That worked well for me for a few years.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy Cooper wrote:
Of course, if you do most of your playing standing - then the Hamilton stand but for trombone. That worked well for me for a few years.

The Hamilton trombone stand with a trumpet stand topper in my case.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standing or seated doesn’t matter to me. I only use the K&M. I’ve always found those taller stands to be less stable (never used a Hamilton - hard to come by over here).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm keeping my old Hamilton stand (hey, it's probably considered an antique now!) for in my office where I practice. I've had that stand since my junior high days, so it's been around with me on a lot of concerts. But for rehearsals and concerts now I've bought a couple 5-leggers to use with my horns, because I agree, they really do provide more stability for the horn.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is there one of these in-bell stands that is better than another?


I think some designs are better than others. Three-leg stands seem inherently less stable than five-leg stands, for instance. Similarly, stands where you attach the legs or lock them in place seem more likely to result in a damaged horn that those where the legs are permanently affixed.

I've been very happy with the K&M five-leg stand, but there are others with similar designs that are probably fine as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for K&M 5-leg (there are knock-offs around - hit or miss on quality)

I will just add that I don't like to leave them in the bell very long - I generally get home from the gig/rehearsal and pull them out. They hold more moisture in the trumpets which promotes the "ick" growing inside. Then I forget they are there when pulling my trumpet out of the case, sending the stand flying. Fortunately, I haven't had one hit another trumpet, yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaferis wrote:
Another vote for K&M 5-leg (there are knock-offs around - hit or miss on quality)

I will just add that I don't like to leave them in the bell very long - I generally get home from the gig/rehearsal and pull them out. They hold more moisture in the trumpets which promotes the "ick" growing inside. Then I forget they are there when pulling my trumpet out of the case, sending the stand flying. Fortunately, I haven't had one hit another trumpet, yet.


They hold more moisture? By that do you mean that because they're stored in the bell, the air flow is not as good as it would otherwose be, so the horn doesn't dry out from the front end like it might without a stand stored there?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhatheway wrote:
zaferis wrote:
Another vote for K&M 5-leg (there are knock-offs around - hit or miss on quality)

I will just add that I don't like to leave them in the bell very long - I generally get home from the gig/rehearsal and pull them out. They hold more moisture in the trumpets which promotes the "ick" growing inside. Then I forget they are there when pulling my trumpet out of the case, sending the stand flying. Fortunately, I haven't had one hit another trumpet, yet.


They hold more moisture? By that do you mean that because they're stored in the bell, the air flow is not as good as it would otherwose be, so the horn doesn't dry out from the front end like it might without a stand stored there?


Yes. If you wait and open the case a couple days later and the stand is still moist.. yuck.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I favor the 5-leg K&M but I wish they would modify the design to improve ventilation. I wouldn't mind if they were a bit lighter too. When I carry my triple bag with two trumpet and one flugel stand the additional weight is not trivial.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K & M 5 leg for me.
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