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Shaker
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

What would you all suggest for a mute on the pianissimo fanfare section at 16 before Rehersal # 10... or Rehersal 9? I only have an excerpt for an audition. Anyways, what mutes would you suggest i try on this? I don't have an F or Eb trumpet, so it's hard to get up to stay up in the higher range w/o getting too loud.

PS: I have Orchestral Excerpts for Trumpet and he says to use a tight fiber mute... does he mean a "stone lined" mute?
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ejaime23
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always done this excerpt on C trumpet with a Denis Wick straight mute with scrunchie around it. Every time I've seen this performed live the players have used a Whispa Mute, I'm not sure what brand this is, I just know that's the name of it. Some other mutes that have been recommended to me for this excerpt are a Bach straight mute, the plastic kind, and a Lyric mute. Hope this helps!
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trombapaul2
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Whispa Mute is a type of practice mute (solid hard shell with a fiber stuffing).
It works great for the "Fetes" excerpts. Because it's a practice mute, it allows
the player to put more air into the horn while controlling the amount of sound
escaping the horn so the higher sections are less of a fight or control issue. If
you have good control at pp, the TrumCor Lyric mute is also a good choice as
is the Bach plastic mute with about a half dozen cotton balls stuffed into it.

Paul

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sdgtpt
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played the Debussy in Rome last summer. We tried several different mutes and variations, but the conductor like the Lyric Mute best, and his no. 2 choice was a metal mute with a thick bag (velvet) over the bell.
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bftrumpet
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't found anything better than the TrumCor Lyric Mute! This is a fantastic mute and I can't recommend it highly enough. This past season, I saw the Philadelphia section using them for some soft playing and Mike Sachs used it on "Fetes" during his masterclass in Denver at ITG. It gets a great sound and does not blow stuffy as some soft mutes tend to do. Check it out at http://www.trumcor.com

Ben Fairfield
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AverageJoe
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben nailed it. The TrumCor is the one. I've tried my Denis Wick cup mute with the cup removed and cotton fiber stuffed inside...I've tried a Montreal Mute...I've even tried an old Stone Lined cardboard straight. Nothing buzzes quietly like the TrumCor.

Paul Poovey
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BigBadWolf
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have this mute that I got when I was an undergrad. It is a blue cardboard mute called the "Chicago Mute." It is the quietest mute that I have ever found. The one thing that I will say, though, is that they are not very sturdy. While I have had this particular one for about 6 years, when I was an undergrad I went through about 3 of them. The reason that I am so carefull with this particualr mute is that I cannot find them anywhere. My undergrad teacher, Charlie Schlueter had them for a while, but I do not know where to get the any more. So, if anyone out there know where I can find another, I would be thankfull.

Kevin
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pitchlevel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevin, a friend of mine went on vacation last year and came back with one of those. i dont know the name of the store he bought it in, but he was in chicago when he got it. true story. ill ask him and post the answer here. that is a great mute for fetes though, definitely.

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softcase
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to use a Montreal mute, maybe with a foam mute pad thing.
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jcstites
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i second the montreal mute. or a whispa mute. or a wick with cotton balls.
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