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Schilkeshaker Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 180 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:17 am Post subject: Removing lacquer on flugel |
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Just one question:
How would it effect the tone etc. to remove the lacquer from an old Getzen Eterna flugel?
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Schilkeshaker Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Anyone?! |
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cujazztrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 697 Location: Jacksonville,FL
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Some folks will say it make it a little darker, some say nothing will change. _________________ Playing music is better than playing notes!
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DCB1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:03 am Post subject: |
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cujazztrpt wrote: | Some folks will say it make it a little darker, some say nothing will change. |
Ditto.
Don't forget about brass poisoning..... not a good thing. My Olds cornet has some raw brass showing so I always wash my hands well after playing it. _________________ DCB <><
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improver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 7:25 am Post subject: |
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it wont affect it |
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Solar Bell Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 794 Location: Metro Detroit
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Why would want to do that? _________________ Chuck Willard |
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Go for it ! (Take it all off !).
Your're more likely to have L-S-S ("Loose Sphincter Syndrome") than to get brass-poisoning.
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DCB1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Robert Rowe wrote: | Go for it ! (Take it all off !).
Your're more likely to have L-S-S ("Loose Sphincter Syndrome") than to get brass-poisoning.
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Just letting him know that it could happen. There is a guy on the TH that has had it.... he could tell you some stories. _________________ DCB <><
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9372 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think taking the lacquer off a horn does much of anything except make it tarnish. |
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Sooner Veteran Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Norman, OK
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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If anything, removing the lacquer will brighten the sound. Some people claim that it really changes the sound, some people don't think it does anything. _________________ N.Y. Bach 31 bell S-bore (.440) 50XX, Bob Reeves 41sv-692s, Bach MV 1.5C/warburton 9 BB for legit.
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Robert Rowe Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 5364 Location: Chincoteague, Virginia
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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There is a difference; although I am hard-pressed to characterize it, or quantify it.
Consider: I have three (3) sets of almost identical horns; in each case, one (1) is in original condition and with the factory-applied lacquer, and it's identical "twin" has had the lacquer removed. All the horns have never had modifications, nor repairs. These are not mere "pedestrian" horns ... 1940's vintage Martin Committees, late 1950's Conn Connstellations, and 1960's Getzen Super-Deluxe Artists (S. Silver bells).
I enlisted the aid of another musician (non-horn player) with a fine "set of ears" to assist in discerning any audible differences in tone or sound characteristics. The results of a "blind test comparison" indicated very, very slight noticeable "cleaner, warmer tone" from the un-lacquered horns. The sense that I (the player) got, was a feeling of better response and centering (the direct and sympathetic harmonic vibrations transmitting through the horn, both in my hands and against my lips).
Just wanted to "shed some light" on this controversial issue -- at least from my perspective.
By-the-way, the un-lacquered horns were not highly polished to a "fair-thee-well". I occasionally (about every 3-4 weeks) give them a 15-minute superficial polishing, followed by a wipe-down with an oily rag (soft Tee shirt used for catching excess valve-oil run-out). I've been doing this for years, and it an easy "no-hassle" maintenance program ... dispelling the myth of high-maintenance on un-lacquered horns.
Keep tootin' !
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