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horncorn New Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: Vermont / Vincent Bach |
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Hello from Germany - I'm a french horn player with a friend trumpeter ,
who is looking for a mouthpiece from Vermont / Vincent Bach
model 1C and 1E . His Problem is the inner rim , being too sharp ...
Is there anyone out there , who can help ?
Greetings , horncorn |
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lh Claude Gordon Forum Moderator
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean Mount Vernon, New York?
Dave _________________ Eclipse Enigma Bb trumpet 2011
Olds Super Bb trumpet 1958
Eclipse Red Flugelhorn 2011
Selmer Paris model 59 Piccolo 1977
Conn New Invention Cornet 1913 |
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horncorn New Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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No, sorry ! These are the specifications he gave me ... |
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Richard A Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Vermont / Vincent Bach |
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horncorn wrote: | Hello from Germany - I'm a french horn player with a friend trumpeter ,
who is looking for a mouthpiece from Vermont / Vincent Bach
model 1C and 1E . His Problem is the inner rim , being too sharp ...
Is there anyone out there , who can help ?
Greetings , horncorn |
It's not clear what the question is
[ Vincent Bach left Mt Vernon a long time ago, circa 1953. ]
In any event, the Kanstul Mouthpiece Comparator at http://kanstul.net/mpcJN/Compare/CompareIE.HTM
will allow your friend to see what has a different contour. |
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Tom LeCompte Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Stork Mouthpieces are in Vermont. Could he have meant that? |
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regularsopguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Vermont / Vincent Bach |
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horncorn wrote: | Hello from Germany - I'm a french horn player with a friend trumpeter ,
who is looking for a mouthpiece from Vermont / Vincent Bach
model 1C and 1E . His Problem is the inner rim , being too sharp ...
Is there anyone out there , who can help ?
Greetings , horncorn |
come on guys...sounds pretty much like BACH mouthpieces _________________ "Come with uncle and hear all proper. Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones...you are invited." |
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horncorn New Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks alot for the replies , but I must contact my friend for further info's - I'll be back soon ... |
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Rich G Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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horncorn wrote: | Thanks alot for the replies , but I must contact my friend for further info's - I'll be back soon ... |
There are no Vermont Bach mouthpieces. He probably means Mount Vernon, New York (as Dave has suggested). If he is lucky enough to find a Mt Vernon Bach 1C or 1E, he can expect to pay $450 - $600 for one in good condition, judging by what they have sold for on eBay. |
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pitchlevel Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: |
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I'm with Tom LeCompte on this one. He could mean the Bach copies that Stork sells, made today in Vermont.
Heres a link: http://www.storkcustom.com/html/NYC%20trpt.htm
One could call that a Vermont/Vincent Bach 1C. |
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horncorn New Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hello - Thanks again for the great info's - I think the storkcustom link is the top hit bingo - I'll have a tel. phone call with them soon - Greetings from Christoph and me friend Michael |
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laura C tpt Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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I was so excited when I saw the title of this thread--I'm one of the (apparently) four Vermonters on TH. Then it was a slight misunderstanding and not as awesome as I'd hoped. Storks are amazing though! _________________ -Laura Carpenter-
Trumpet Performance/Musicology
Boston University
College of Fine Arts 2010 |
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horncorn New Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: |
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I guess I must write one last time with latest info's - My friend has a Vermont/Vincent Bach , bought at eBay , but he is looking for a 1C - I told him that he was lucky to get one over the web . Now with latest info's from
pitchlevel , he might find a way to achieve a mouthpiece ( reproduced ) copy of the original Vermont /Vincent Bach at stork... in N.Y.
Maybe laura C tpt has a good idea !?
PS : There must also be somewhat connection between Selmer and Vermont ??? The equipment ( from around 1950 ) for cutting the mouthpiece blocks are somehow not exsisting , so one can only find poor copies ... Is this true or can stork make a dream true for Michael ...? Greetings... |
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laura C tpt Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Well, as far as I know, Bach had no connection with Vermont. Is it possible your friend was scammed or something?
Mt. Vernon is the way to go with Bach mouthpieces (or so I'm told...again, I'm a Stork player).
Stork is not located in New York. It is located the middle of Vermont.
Laura _________________ -Laura Carpenter-
Trumpet Performance/Musicology
Boston University
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Rich G Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:57 am Post subject: |
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horncorn wrote: | Thanks alot for the replies , but I must contact my friend for further info's - I'll be back soon ... |
Please ask your friend if he is reading what is on the mouthpiece correctly. Does your friend's mouthpiece say: "V-E- R-M-O-N-T" or does it say "M-T__ V-E-R-N-O-N__ NY" ?
Could your friend send you a picture of the mouthpiece that you could post here?
FWIW: There are other companies that make Bach-based copies, such as Laskey and Curry. |
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horncorn New Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Hello - Maybe in the end not so exciting for you but here the latest info's :
He has no original Vermont mouthpiece - he assumes that its a Vermont ... So , this is whats on it : Vincent Bach Corp. 2 C
And he is definatly looking for the best copy of Vermont / Mt. Vernon 1 C because 500 $ is too much for him... he told me he heard , that there are a lots of bad copies ... he can tell by blowing backwards throuw the mouthpiece - and if it whistles , than its a very good sign of quality...
Well , thats all ...
Greetings again... |
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Rich G Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:47 am Post subject: |
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horncorn wrote: | Hello - Maybe in the end not so exciting for you but here the latest info's :
He has no original Vermont mouthpiece - he assumes that its a Vermont ... So , this is whats on it : Vincent Bach Corp. 2 C
And he is definatly looking for the best copy of Vermont / Mt. Vernon 1 C because 500 $ is too much for him... he told me he heard , that there are a lots of bad copies ... he can tell by blowing backwards throuw the mouthpiece - and if it whistles , than its a very good sign of quality...
Well , thats all ...
Greetings again... |
Your friend can get excellent and more consistent copies of Bach mouthpieces from Mark Curry or Scott Laskey - and for well under $100. I prefer the Laskey or Curry copies to the Kanstul copies, but he can certainly find Kanstul copies of Bach Mt Vernon mouthpieces that may also be to his liking.
http://www.currympc.com/
http://www.laskey.com/ |
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horncorn New Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Well , what a fine writeback from Rich G - Thankyou very much indeed !!!
Greetings from Michael and Christoph |
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Rich G Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Greetings, Michael and Christoph. Good luck finding the right mouthpiece. Let us know how it works out for you. |
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