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davewithabuescher Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 195 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: where do old COnns go to die? |
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I picked up what I believe is a 1922 Conn 24B on Ebay through a "make an offer" and after hearing back from Chuck Ward (thouroughly nice guym by the way), it looks like old Connie is going to pass over to the land of misfit horns.
Needs about $1100.00 worth of restoration and that seems above and beyond the value of the horn especially as I have never played a note on it and have no sentimental attachment to the horn.
I don't feel right selling the horn as a trumpet so i am not posting in the marketplace or putting on Ebay, if someone here could use it for parts or wants to try a restoration, just shoot me a PM.
Defects: needs valve job, no tuning slide spit valve nipple, many small dents and dings, even on the tubing between valves, leadpipe is cheesecake with redrot holes (you could play it like an ocarina), horn has been severely buffed, one bottom cap has chip in mother of peral inlay, several braces look to have been resoldered poorly, third valve tuning ring seems to be way too far from valve block, but original, missing main tuning slide stop rod and nut. first slide pull knob missing.
Glorius Wonderful Features: beautiful copper lower valve casings, nice valve caps, buttons and 2 of 3 bottom caps, new spit valve corks
I am not 100% that this is a 24B though it has the tight bell flare and looks most like a 24B from the connloyalist.com , the second valve slide points striaght out rather than being angled forward or back. I e-mailed Christine about the model but haven't heard back, so I am guessing it may be mystery model. The bore measured at the second valve is .4380 to .4385.
You can see original auction pics here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250302278836&ssPag
I offered $125, he was asking $200 BIN, so I am not out much and the photos and description were acurate, I was just a bit optimistic in my idea of how cheap it would be to make right again.
I took many pics before sending to Chuck Ward if you want more pics just ask.
Dave _________________ 1928 Conn 2B
1939 Buescher 400
1941 York Custom Model
1947 Blessing Super Artist
1959 Mt Vernon Bach Stradivarious
1961 Buescher Aristoproject
1979 LA Benge 5x
???? Holton T102S
2009 Del Quadro Custom |
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ConnArtist Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 2833 Location: La-la Land (corner of 13th and 13th)
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Ouch! I had been watching that one and was glad it went to someone in the "family". If I had the $, I'd offer to take it off your hands and just get the major damage fixed and call it good. But alas, I made a similarly optimistic move one a cornet recently.
Anybody know an inexpensive tech who does valve (nickel) replating/lapping in addition to your typical soldering and dent removal? _________________ "Stomvi" PhrankenPhlugel w/ Blessing copper bell
1958 Conn 18A cornet
1962 Conn 9A cornet (yes, the Unicorn )
Reynolds Onyx cornet
c. 1955? Besson 10-10 trumpet
1939 Martin Imperial Handcraft “Model 37”
1986 Bach Strad 37 ML
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plp Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 7023 Location: South Alabama
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Where do old Conns go to die??? Far too many of them seem to go to my house!
Sometimes I feel like I'm running a retirement home rather than collecting instruments.
I watched that auction and due to the heavy buffing declined to bid. Right now I have about 15 pre 1930 Conns that need various parts and pieces, including my own 'mystery horn', a 1911 long cornet that is very similar to either the 2-B or yours. It also has a swiss cheezed leadpipe, needs a valve job, but has a beautiful silver bell with gold inlay. The bell may end up on something else some day.
Good luck finding a good home for that one, as it deserves it. |
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Mikeytrpt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 5028 Location: Richfield, Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Where do old Conns go to die?
To the CONNsignment shop, of course!
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hansonsf Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Mikeytrpt wrote: | Where do old Conns go to die?
To the CONNsignment shop, of course!
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Come on man! CONNtrol yourself!!! |
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ohiotpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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It would be a CONNsignment shop in CONNeticut owned by a gal name CONNie who is a CONNoisseur of old trumpets.
They used to be in front until they got pushed into the BACH.....
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Okay, I'm done.
Back to practice. |
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Indian Veteran Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 364 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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ohiotpt wrote: | It would be a CONNsignment shop in CONNeticut owned by a gal name CONNie who is a CONNoisseur of old trumpets.
They used to be in front until they got pushed into the BACH.....
Okay, I'm done.
Back to practice. |
Good Grief, have we been sniffing the valve oil again .... _________________ Rob,
King Liberty SilverTone
King Liberty Super 20
Conn Vocabell 40A - 40B - 80A - 81A - 38A -Victor - 22B - 12B Coprion bell - 16B,
Getzen Tone Balanced Super Deluxe
Holton French LeBlanc - Al Hirt 550
Olds Studio - Special
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rolling360 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 1346 Location: Belfast, Ireland
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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So you were the highest bidder!!! I was next in line. Lucky me.
Now if someone wants to stop by and see someones Conn, would that be called a CONNgical visit? |
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Tootsall Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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When they can't be restored they end up in the Connservatorium. |
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campbrd Regular Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Posts: 56 Location: Huntsville, AL
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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How long can this thread CONNtinue? |
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rolling360 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Or it could go into the trash CONNtainer! |
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Dave Mickley Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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when they get real old they end up in a CONNvelcent home. _________________ formerly known as old geezer Dave
C7c,bell heat treated
Yam. 231 Fl. 15383
Weril Cornet Lo 7535
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rolling360 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is killing me. I cant CONNcentrate on practicing. |
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so what Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm CONNfused |
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ohiotpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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By the use of CONNdoms, do you prevent little piccolo trumpets? Better a piccolo trumpet then a Flugelhorn which would cause much greater CONNtractions.
Not sure if that type of talk is allow in normal CONNversation.
My CONNdolences to anyone who has to listen to this being read out loud. It's a bit CONNfounding and CONNtrarian to good taste, but a CONNvienent waste of computer cycles.
Does playing a raw brass Vintage One cause CONNdylomas to form on your hand? (google that joke) That would be hard to CONNceal. Yep, you just CONN't stop the music or bad jokes once they start running. The humor's GETZEN a little strange about now.
Okay, time to stop
Where's that valve oil, SNNNNIFFF |
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Wes Clarke Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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You could spend $600 to $1,100 on restoration and end up with a horn worth $250 (probably less). That one's already had enough work done on it. Looks a bit like a botched restoration at some point. Is that gold metallic spray paint? Just let it die a peaceful death. Maybe a proper burial somewhere. Your point about sentimental attachment is a good one. If you are not emotionally invested, dump it. |
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rolling360 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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I would have to say that this horn should be CONNdemed. |
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Bruin Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Great question, but I must express considerable CONNsternation over not being able to answer it. _________________ '64 Conn Connstellation 38B
Jupiter 846S flugelhorn
CarolBrass Mini Pocket Trumpet
Schilke 17& 17D4d4 trumpet mpcs
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davewithabuescher Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 195 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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You guys had me laughing so unCONNtrollably that my wife thought I was having a CONNiption fit.
Dave
Q: what do you call a trumpet with an engraving of a pine tree on the bell?
A: a CONNifer of course _________________ 1928 Conn 2B
1939 Buescher 400
1941 York Custom Model
1947 Blessing Super Artist
1959 Mt Vernon Bach Stradivarious
1961 Buescher Aristoproject
1979 LA Benge 5x
???? Holton T102S
2009 Del Quadro Custom |
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davewithabuescher Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Bruin wrote: | Great question, but I must express CONNsiderable CONNsternation over not being able to answer it. |
I fixed your typo, no charge _________________ 1928 Conn 2B
1939 Buescher 400
1941 York Custom Model
1947 Blessing Super Artist
1959 Mt Vernon Bach Stradivarious
1961 Buescher Aristoproject
1979 LA Benge 5x
???? Holton T102S
2009 Del Quadro Custom |
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