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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7016 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
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The original focus of this thread was to examine the real effects of bell taper, mouthpiece bore, etc. on how a trumpet plays. Specifically, that changes in timbre are not the primary difference.
When I talk about "performance envelope", I am not talking about louder playing. I'm talking about how far a horn is able to go in any and every direction, and in every way. I'm not really examining the player here.
An example would be resonance in the low frequencies. No matter what I try, I cannot get my Benge to sound like my Wild Thing down around G below the staff. If I work and work and work on my Benge and get a lovely sound down there, the WT will then sound even more gorgeous.
Also, I can work for an hour to get a delicate response on my smallest bore CG3, but if switch to the largest bore, I always am able to do the harder stuff easier on that otherwise identical mouthpiece.
Again, I'm comparing changes in sound to changes in capability, finding changes in capability outweigh changes in the fundamental sound.
I don't mean to say that everyone should play what I play. That's not at all my point. I know that every player finds a different combination that works. I'm not talking in those terms. Just the realization that different (specifically) bell tapers don't change timbre - as sampled in the middle of the playing spectrum - so much as they change what the horn is capable of doing. The design affects the performance envelope more than it affects the fundamental sound.
Brian _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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Ed Lee Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 2156 Location: Jackson NC 27845
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Capt.Kirk wrote: | As to the Cornet think of it like you would a French Horn or Euphonium you never pick up either of those horns and try to muscle them around. I got a bit huffy the other day ranting on Cornet playing about trumpet players and how stupid they get when they get close to a Cornet just the other day! They always want it play like a trumpet but it is not.....It should not sound like one or feel like one just because it looks like one! In fact I even made a comment that was snide but very true if more trumpet players doubled on Euphonium or French Horns we would see all kinds of Euphonium and French horn MP that looked like dimes with holes in them because they would want to try to make them sound,play and feel like a trumpet! |
As I've played picc, cornet, trumpet and EUPHONIUM / TROMBONE/ BARITONE as the latter all use the same mpc, I'd certainly not want to get a custom modifcation of a cornet or trumpet mpc to play these. I do tend to play a 6 1/2 AL most, inclusive of solos, but in concert where I'm to support the bass staff more it's a 12C pick. Neither of these mpcs would be anywhere close to a cornet or trumpet mpc. |
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