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fredo Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:13 am Post subject: |
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so pinstriper, it is not Capt Kirk who resuscitated ? _________________ Frederic FELTZ
Yamaha XENO 2 8335 S
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 2594
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Of course this has to be a joke. No one in their right mind would alter a large bore Committee in "mint condition" with "100% of the old lacquer ... intact," especially sanding off the engraving. Too stupid for words.
So what's the real purpose of the post? Who knows? Apparently someone has too much time on their hands. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12699 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 am Post subject: |
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fredo wrote: | so pinstriper, it is not Capt Kirk who resuscitated ? |
It is definitely not. The posts have too few misspellings and there aren’t any rants against Bach. |
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James Becker Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 2827 Location: Littleton, MA
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Let's say for argument this post is real, I for would like to put to rest what a restoration really means.
In our industry we have the term overhaul which is the equivalent of "body and fender" with a fresh coat, think Maaco paint job. No mechanical work like valve rebuilding is covered but often thought as an add-on.
Then there's mechanical overhaul where valves are rebuilt to restore seal and reliable action, plus badly worn parts get repaired or replaced, but leaving existing finish intact.
A restoration can be a combination of these two, but where less aggressive polishing is done so to maintain as much of the original piece as possible.
Museum conservationists prefer to do nothing more than a light cleaning and none of the above. The thinking is you don't want to compromise the piece or it's history.
For those that watch the PBS program Antique Roadshow, allow me to paraphrase "Mrs. Jones, your piece is indeed a Chippendale, too bad you refinished it. It's now worth far less than if you had left it alone." You get the idea.
Here's a link to Wikipedia regarding antique restoration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiques_restoration
"Just say no." Nancy Reagan _________________ James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:41 am Post subject: |
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tptptp wrote: | I decided to do a restoration project on my Tesla. The dash is awfully plain, and the car is eerily quiet, so I added a tach and an oil pressure gauge, and the muscle car noise simulator makes it really nice. |
Add a bottle of nitrous, and you have Ludicrous Mode 2.0 |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9384 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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A proper restorer would have used 100 grit sandpaper. Using scotch-brite pads is strictly amateurish. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9384 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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James Becker wrote: | ...For those that watch the PBS program Antique Roadshow, allow me to paraphrase "Mrs. Jones, your piece is indeed a Chippendale, too bad you refinished it. It's now worth far less than if you had left it alone." You get the idea.... |
What I always find interesting is that polishing an antique piece that is brass, copper, or bronze destroys its value, but polishing a silver antique piece is perfectly ok. I suppose it's an aesthetic thing, where oxidized brass, copper, and bronze have a pleasing "patina", but oxidized, blackened silver does not. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say that the action of jazzspazz is not that bad. In fact by buffing away the logo he corrected, obviously without being selfish, the hot air prices of Committees to a pré-Botti level of a few hundred dollars which is the right price for that overvalued horns . Good action! |
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adc Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2019 Posts: 119 Location: Elizabethtown PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:37 am Post subject: |
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We've been trolled _________________ Too many Old Cornets to Count |
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Claude1949 Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2018 Posts: 188 Location: maryland
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:43 am Post subject: |
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delano wrote: | I have to say that the action of jazzspazz is not that bad. In fact by buffing away the logo he corrected, obviously without being selfish, the hot air prices of Committees to a pré-Botti level of a few hundred dollars which is the right price for that overvalued horns . Good action! |
AGREE!!! _________________ Claudio |
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James Becker Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 2827 Location: Littleton, MA
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:05 am Post subject: |
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The price of Martin Committee trumpets are like anything else, fetching what the market will bear. In the eyes of a serious collector what the OP did seriously compromised it’s resale value. Okay, it’s not as if it’s a violin that can command millions, but still. _________________ James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
77 Powdermill Road Rt.62
Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com
Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store https://www.ups.com/dropoff?loc=en_US |
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oldblow Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 676 Location: Mitchell, Georgia
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:31 am Post subject: |
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When I finished restoration on a house here in Georgia that was built in 1785, the owner and I were sitting in it, drinking tea. The owner remarked, "This is wonderful work that you did; nobody will ever know you were here; it looks as if it was just built, then carefully maintained."
While the original post is surely a trolling post, it never hurts to talk about the aims of proper restoration of old objects. _________________ Felton (Butch) Bohannon |
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Zman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 590 Location: New Plymouth, New Zealand
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Tobylou8 Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2019 Posts: 157
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:32 am Post subject: |
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To the uninitiated, YOU'VE BEEN SPAZZED!!!! This horn is just his intermediate beginner horn he really doesn't care about. I think he has another Committee that is blue with flames down the bell!!
His pro horn is an Olds Ambassador. His are some of the funniest posts on the PLANET EARTH or any other planet! |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Tobylou8 wrote: | To the uninitiated, YOU'VE BEEN SPAZZED!!!! This horn is just his intermediate beginner horn he really doesn't care about. I think he has another Committee that is blue with flames down the bell!!
His pro horn is an Olds Ambassador. His are some of the funniest posts on the PLANET EARTH or any other planet! |
Yeah, just hilarious. No, really.🙄
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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Zman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 590 Location: New Plymouth, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Tobylou8 wrote: | To the uninitiated, YOU'VE BEEN SPAZZED!!!! This horn is just his intermediate beginner horn he really doesn't care about. I think he has another Committee that is blue with flames down the bell!!
His pro horn is an Olds Ambassador. His are some of the funniest posts on the PLANET EARTH or any other planet! |
Nope, that is actually my photo of an actual Martin Committee as per my 2010 post. I hate it when people rip my content for this kind of stuff. Too lazy to even change the name of the photo..... _________________ Martins:
HC Committee #2
HC Imperial #3 LB & #4 XL Bore
Deluxe Committee Bb, C & Eb
Taylor Chicago II Lite
Yamaha 8335LA
www.thebrasscellar.com
www.facebook.com/thebrasscellar
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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