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Retlaw
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TheRealCaptKirk wrote:
rosebud.


Is that you, Steve?


Who is Steve? Can you imagine the time it takes to write these epics and not be appreciated ? And no I didn't read it.....

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retlaw wrote:
shofarguy wrote:
TheRealCaptKirk wrote:
rosebud.


Is that you, Steve?


Who is Steve? Can you imagine the time it takes to write these epics and not be appreciated ? And no I didn't read it.....

Walter


Watch "Over the Hedge"
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shofarguy wrote:
Retlaw wrote:
shofarguy wrote:
TheRealCaptKirk wrote:
rosebud.


Is that you, Steve?


Who is Steve? Can you imagine the time it takes to write these epics and not be appreciated ? And no I didn't read it.....

Walter


Watch "Over the Hedge"



Missed that one... I guess the question should be John... is that really you?

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retlaw wrote:
shofarguy wrote:
Retlaw wrote:
shofarguy wrote:
TheRealCaptKirk wrote:
rosebud.


Is that you, Steve?


Who is Steve? Can you imagine the time it takes to write these epics and not be appreciated ? And no I didn't read it.....

Walter


Watch "Over the Hedge"



Missed that one... I guess the question should be John... is that really you?

Walter


I'm going to "Steve" my bet and say it's Scorpion in need of intervention.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps....... Set up membership Dec 2012...

Looks like a lot of cut and paste.....from 5000 +posts . Nobody has time to work all that out surely....????

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rosebud.


TRCK, don't believe everything you hear on the radio. It's just a piece in a jigsaw puzzle. A missing piece.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What troll ? I am just saying the horns look great but aren't usually the long term choice for most serious players. I don't know of anyone recording an album with them, do you ? That's my point.


Truly an idiotic post. Just because you don't know of anyone playing one, they suck. Get lost, kid.

This "brand infatuation" that so many people display on this site is such a waste of time. Pick an instrument with no holes in it and PRACTICE.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This "brand infatuation" that so many people display on this site is such a waste of time. Pick an instrument with no holes in it and PRACTICE.


+ google!
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Sailors wrote:
Pick an instrument with no holes in it and PRACTICE.


That would be really hard to play if it was a trumpet. Maybe a piece of percussion equipment like that would work, but most other instruments require at least one or two holes to function.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandyTX wrote:
Mike Sailors wrote:
Pick an instrument with no holes in it and PRACTICE.


That would be really hard to play if it was a trumpet. Maybe a piece of percussion equipment like that would work, but most other instruments require at least one or two holes to function.


Perhaps he was suggesting to go and beat a different drum....

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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Monette vs Harrelson Reply with quote

Well' I now have a Harrelson Bravura, can someone loan me one of their Monettes so I can put this discussion to an end.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Monette vs Harrelson Reply with quote

UpracticeDaily wrote:
Well' I now have a Harrelson Bravura, can someone loan me one of their Monettes so I can put this discussion to an end.


Why not tell us how you like your Bravura....

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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The jury's not out yet. I had one bad gig on it (intonation issues), one good rehearsal (supported the upper register). I've been playing horns with resistance so it wouldnt be fair to come to a conclusion yet. This horn has Harrelsons #2 LP so its a very open blow. Working
from Thursday to Sunday. Should have a better understanding how it performs. Alone sheading has also been a learning experience as well. What I can share now is, if you have a shoulder problem look out. It's a heavy horn, and the Saturn water keys are a pain.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brand infatuation. you know it really is like falling in love all over again.
you want me to get over this? it's wonderful when i play the instruments. it's wonderful when i am away from them, just knowing they are there, and how they sound, and the wonder and beauty of the experience.
in all seriousness there's a very short list of outfits that can supply you with a trumpet and flugel that will make you fall down and gag. calicchio... eclipse... van laar... flip oakes... andy taylor... and john duda may close up. it's not an easy game and when you get taken care of on an extremely high level, loyalty is in order.
most consistent reports of addled and infatuated consumers from the other side has to go to eclipse. seems to be a sure bet.
love is very much like a psychosis. i guess it's annoying to more pragmatic and hard headed types.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:34 pm    Post subject: It's all in the player Reply with quote

The fact is that Louis played on a normal horn for most of his professional life. From the perspective of the listener (untrained), the differences in a Harrelson and a Monette are minimal. However, from the perspective of the player, the difference in having a Monette is vast. What we call "pro gear" at the level of Monette horns, you are paying for precision, intonation stability, flexibility, slotting, craftsmanship, customization, and above all quality. Lets face it, you don't see the who's who playing Harrelson gear. It's all Monette all day. For my money, there is only one choice.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I was in nyc Jeremy Pelt had a Harrelson.....
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markchuvala wrote:
Last time I was in nyc Jeremy Pelt had a Harrelson.....


Jeremy actually has two Harrelson Summit trumpets. One is leadpipe 4 bell 7 and the other is leadpipe 7 bell 8. The 2nd one has black lacquer and he named it Nephthys. He used the first one on his 2012 album Soul and the 2nd one on his 2013 album Water and Earth. The lp 4 bell 7 is a common jazz setup and the lp 7 bell 8 setup has a very big and dark sound.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: It's all in the player Reply with quote

Bigtom49 wrote:
The fact is that Louis played on a normal horn for most of his professional life. From the perspective of the listener (untrained), the differences in a Harrelson and a Monette are minimal. However, from the perspective of the player, the difference in having a Monette is vast. What we call "pro gear" at the level of Monette horns, you are paying for precision, intonation stability, flexibility, slotting, craftsmanship, customization, and above all quality. Lets face it, you don't see the who's who playing Harrelson gear. It's all Monette all day. For my money, there is only one choice.


Well, that depends on the who whose "Who's Who" we are discussing, doesn't it?

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheRealCaptKirk wrote:
If you stop the exercise unless your trumpet playing put's the mass production OEM of brass
because you do not have a narow ph tolerance and it is a Female Trumpet Principal that travels...

...fantastically making the Olds bell in terms of what I wanted the domestics to do.


OMG, LOL to the max!!!!

I'm pretty sure everything this guy has "written" is actually jumbled up quotes from what the "original" Capt.Kirk has written on the TH.

I think this is the funniest thing I've ever seen on the Internet.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, an orgy of bandwidth.
that long kirk post is like the DJs who do that thing twitching the records backwards. it's the same material only rearranged to someone's internal rhythm.
for some reason in all its glory and length it's the funniest thing i've seen in a long time.
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