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Geophyzz
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: GR mouthpieces Reply with quote

im starting to wonder is GR is becoming the new standard for trumpet mouthpieces at the college level. im seeing(or hearing about) alot of studios using them. im a GR player myself. I was just wondering what people here think.

gratz to GR and the success that they deserve
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no pro, but I've been playing GR for about 5 years... I just love the HUGE SOUND I get from my 62M-MS cup.... and when I push on it it, watch out!!!! Excellent pieces....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not use GR mouthpieces regularly now but do have a few pieces in my collection. I would not be the least bit surprised if they are becoming the new standard as they are great mouthpieces that are very well designed and with a big enough selection that most people can usually find one that works for them if given the proper guidance (ie. fill out the GR survey and/or consider a consult with a GR specialist).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I know is that my GR 66M is the best mouthpiece that I've ever come across. I've tried so many different mouthpieces from Bach to Heim to Monette and hands down, the GR blew them all away. I feel that my playing has improved in every area (sound, endurance, flexibility, intonation, etc.) since I found the right equipment for my physiology and playing style. If you live anywhere remotely close to a GR dealer, I highly recommend spending the money and get a professional GR consultation. Thanks to Pierre Allard at Charlie Melk's Brassworks in Milwaukee, WI, I've finally ended my life-long mouthpiece safari and have found a piece that helps me play up to my potential, well most of the time!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of the reason is that more of the colleges have access to GR mouthpieces due to the tireless work of Alex Yates. Over the last few years she has visited many college campuses and allowed their students and faculty to have a personal appointment with one of the top GR consultants.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GR mouthpieces are made to the highest standards and are consistent beyond comprehension. Being compubalanced is the key. There is a literal plethora of choices so a player can be properly fitted (and liberated) with guidance from a trained consultant. During a consultation, when a player's face lights up and the moment happens, it is a wonderful experience. I love helping players this way. It is why I enjoy doing what I do so much.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a GR player too. And no matter how many others I try, I keep coming back to GR. Think I have spend like 2500 Euro's to mouthpieces, in the past 10 years. But there are just two mouthpieces fit for me: the GR 66L and the 66S.
I don't understand anything about their philosophy, and to be honest: I don't even care about it. These mpc's fit me, and that's enough for me
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wayne plays one he got from Carl Fischer....that helps sales!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

camel wrote:
I'm a GR player too. And no matter how many others I try, I keep coming back to GR. Think I have spend like 2500 Euro's to mouthpieces, in the past 10 years. But there are just two mouthpieces fit for me: the GR 66L and the 66S.
I don't understand anything about their philosophy, and to be honest: I don't even care about it. These mpc's fit me, and that's enough for me


BINGO! Musicians shouldn't have to and don't need to know the science. "We do the math, you make the music" is very true. Once you are properly fit, you are set! It ends up saving money in the long run. (Glad you are happy with your set-up Camel )
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbacon wrote:
Wayne plays one he got from Carl Fischer....that helps sales!!


Wayne is having his own made now.....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AYates wrote:
dbacon wrote:
Wayne plays one he got from Carl Fischer....that helps sales!!


Wayne is having his own made now.....


I think he's got it, the high point on the rim was out too far...I played it, nice piece.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbacon wrote:
AYates wrote:
dbacon wrote:
Wayne plays one he got from Carl Fischer....that helps sales!!


Wayne is having his own made now.....


I think he's got it, the high point on the rim was out too far...I played it, nice piece.



Woooo hooooo! See....that is why it is good to be "fitted". What is right for Carl is not exactly right for Wayne. Close is not good enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AYates wrote:
dbacon wrote:
AYates wrote:
dbacon wrote:
Wayne plays one he got from Carl Fischer....that helps sales!!


Wayne is having his own made now.....


I think he's got it, the high point on the rim was out too far...I played it, nice piece.



Woooo hooooo! See....that is why it is good to be "fitted". What is right for Carl is not exactly right for Wayne. Close is not good enough.



Yeah, sometimes you have to play on it for a while to really know what works....!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another satisfied GR player here. I have played a 65Z* for the last couple of years. I'm continuously surprised at how easy this piece makes it to play trumpet. Feels like it was designed just for my chops.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me say up front that I had pretty much dismissed GR out of frustration and disillusionment because it is difficult to just order a few to try on your own. I became a skeptic of the whole process, and even when Alex (who lives in the Atlanta area) became a consultant, I was just not open to giving it a shot despite her periodic offers to take me through the consultation process.

Well, as time passed, I grew tired of having a really good idea of what I needed in a mouthpiece and not quite being able to find it...I would revert back to my old stand-by (Bach 1.5C) after a period of time. The closest I got was the Schilke Symphony M150...perfect in every way except that the throat/bb were just too large and it wore me out on long playing stretches.

I friend of mine who also played a 1.5C had recently been to see Alex, and he was excited about the new piece he ended up on. I talked to him about the consultation process and briefly played on his new piece before rehearsal began (I liked it).

So, I tucked my tail between my legs and got in touch with Alex for a long-overdue consultation. The process is very well-thought out...Alex will ask questions about your current setup and the type of playing you do. Then she selects potential mouthpiece candidates and outlines the selection process...everything is blind until there you get down to one GR mpce. At that point, you do an A/B against your current mouthpiece with the best one winning.

I mentioned that I had a pretty good idea of what I needed going in, and the consultation confirmed my suspicions. I ended up on a 66.8C, 2.4. It is very similar to the Schilke M150 I mentioned above, but the throat/bb combination is slightly smaller and it doesn't wear me out. I have to say that this was the litmus test for me as to the validity of the consultation process.

4 months in and I'm still really digging my new mpce!

Paul Poovey
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am so happy that you're happy, Paul! Wootness!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if they'll be the "standard" on the college level, but they probably should be. It certainly wouldn't hurt. You could do worse.

I have performed on dozens of different mpcs over the years.

The best mpc I have ever played is a GR 66MS. I use it for everything.

GR mpcs are better than most mpcs. At least, that is my experience.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've dabbled in some GR pieces but the ones I was matched too - while they played great - turned into "flame-throwers" at louder dynamics.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miketpt wrote:
I've dabbled in some GR pieces but the ones I was matched too - while they played great - turned into "flame-throwers" at louder dynamics.

Mike


LOL. I know of what you speak, Mike. LOL. During the playing evaluation, there is a ff/pp excerpt which should have exposed that aspect and therefore, the player made aware that it was unacceptable to their ears (that is why it is one of the pieces consultants use to determine the desired outcome). Many times substituting a symphonic blank for a standard blank will fix that - especially on C trumpet. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss your options or have anything you want to ask. We are neighbors now, so it wouldn't hurt
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its great that Mr Yates goes from college to college to let students play on high class mouthpieces. Anything that can be done to help developing trumpet players get better and have a more positive experience playing improves the art form that is playing the trumpet for all of us.
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