Monettes Eb mouthpieces

[thesplitmeister]

I currently play alot of Eb with 10piece brass groups and orchestras and a while ago a friend highly recomended the Monette Eb mouthpieces to aid any tuning battles.
After a search through the various chanels I decided that it was too expensive to take a "punt" and stuck with my normal setup, however recently I picked one up on eBay for a reasonable price.
In truth, I love the sound in the mid and low register on the Eb, it's huge, resonant and blends brilliantly, but the tuning is extremel bright in the upper register and I thought the whole design of the Monettes was to combat this! F,s F#'s, G's and anything higher are MUCH brighter than on my other set up and are a battle, the problem is, I adore the sound I make in that "middle register" on the Eb which comfortably plays most orchestal rep.
The details-
Eb = Schilke E3 4L with a Bach 236 bell
Main mouthpiece Bb = Curry 1.25C (Similar to Bach 1.25C and Monetter B2 ish)
Normal Eb mouthpiece = Bach 1.5C (great high register, but not the biggest sound)
New Monetter mouthpiece = E2 (great sound, shocking intonation up top)

My questions are
1- Has anyone else experienced this at all?

and

2 - have you any mouthpiece recommendations from the above criteria for a more open sounding mouthpiece than the 1.5C on the Eb, but keep the settled tuning I've grown accustomed to.

Many thanks
Jim

[bagmangood]

You might want to check out this section of the monette site: http://www.monette.net/newsite/monette_approach_00.htm since that sounds like one of their acclimation problems. I think I remember that going extremely sharp in the upper register was caused by some manipulation that we often do.

Don't remember exactly though...
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[cheiden]

[thesplitmeister]

I understand that Monette talk about an accustomisation period where tuning is affected. However, surely I will be permanently in this period as I play mainly on a non Monette mouthpiece on my main hooter....

[thesplitmeister]

I understand that Monette talk about an accustomisation period where tuning is affected. However, surely I will be permanently in this period as I play mainly on a non Monette mouthpiece on my main hooter....

[laurent]

To give good results Monette mouthpieces require a relaxed playing, so I would guess that your problem comes from the fact than when you go higher, you add some unnecessary tensions that play against the mouthpiece.

Si although I can't be absolutely positive, I would say that very likely, if you go the way of the relaxed playing even when playing notes above the staff, the issue you're referring to will disappear pretty quickly!
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Bb Trumpets: Courtois Évolution IV, Stomvi Forte,
Buescher T-120, HT3.
Mpcs: Monette B2s3, Kanstul M-B2.
Flugel: H.Bagué (Yam 631 clone in red brass).
Mpcs: Curry FL & FLD.

[jhahntpt]

I would highly suggest that if you're going to go the Monette route for one horn, you should do that for the others too. I know it's almost prohibitively expensive, but they're very good mouthpieces and there are physical design differences that make switching back and fourth a hazardous experience on all fronts.
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Bb: Yamaha 8310Z
C: Shires 4S/W1B
Piccolo: Yamaha 9830
Flugel: Yamaha 8315G
Cornet: York Eminence

[laurent]

[bagmangood]

The "monette approach" will most likely carry over into positive things for working with your other mouthpieces. If you try, you can instead of physically manipulating (tightening your lips unnecessarily, lifting the horn, etc.) you will end up being more efficient even with "traditional mouthpieces"
Don't worry about it too much
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[cheiden]

[laurent]