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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thanks everybody, that's my Christmas money from mum spent a few times over. It's going to be a good January

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like all the Freddie recordings mentioned above.

One of my very favorites that wasn't mentioned is what I believe to be a pretty rare CTI recording from the 70s. It is "Blue Moses" and the leader is pianist Randy Weston.

It has an African theme and a combo within a big band. The other horn players in the combo are Grover Washington Jr. and Hubert Laws. Freddie really plays dazzling solos and the whole thing just pulsates like crazy. Lew Soloff is the lead trumpet in the big band, which also features Ron Carter and Billy Cobham.

Very exciting listening.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markp wrote:
I like all the Freddie recordings mentioned above.

One of my very favorites that wasn't mentioned is what I believe to be a pretty rare CTI recording from the 70s. It is "Blue Moses" and the leader is pianist Randy Weston.

It has an African theme and a combo within a big band. The other horn players in the combo are Grover Washington Jr. and Hubert Laws. Freddie really plays dazzling solos and the whole thing just pulsates like crazy. Lew Soloff is the lead trumpet in the big band, which also features Ron Carter and Billy Cobham.

Very exciting listening.


Yeah, I listened to that one a million times back in the day!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can read about it here:

http://www.randyweston.info/randy-weston-discography-pages/1972bluemoses.html

I guess it's not so rare after all. A brief internet search turned up lots of copies for sale I'd highly recommend adding it to your collection.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markp wrote:
I like all the Freddie recordings mentioned above.
One of my very favorites that wasn't mentioned is what I believe to be a pretty rare CTI recording from the 70s. It is "Blue Moses" and the leader is pianist Randy Weston.

Wow. I wasn't aware of this recording. It's now on my list.

When I first saw the title of this thread my first thought was: All of them.

I don't think I saw Dexter Gordon's Generation. Definitely get that one and a bunch more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Body & The Soul"
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the replies so far are spot on, and I second the notion that you should get as many of them as you can. Here are few that I would particularly recommend:

1) First Light - first CTI record (I think) for Freddie. It's got the strings and everything, but his playing is gorgeous on it

2) Above and Beyond - killer live date from early 80s

3) Blues and the Abstract Truth (oliver Nelson) - again, a classic record with classic performances. Dolphy is also killer on this.

4) there are two Blue Note albums from the mid 80s that feature Hubbard with Woody Shaw....(Eternal Triangle and Double Take)

Just get 'em all! =

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many great recordings listed already!

I'll second Dexter Gordon's Generation and Freddie's The Body and the Soul as two of my favorites.

Three other favorites of mine (that I don't believe were mentioned yet) are Freddie's The Hub of Hubbard and Straight Life, and Bill Evans' Interplay.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link to Herbie Hancock VSOP
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kalamu.com/bol/wp-content/content/images/herbie%2520vsop%2520cover.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2007/06/10/herbie-hancock-%25E2%2580%259Cspider%25E2%2580%259D/&h=600&w=594&sz=44&tbnid=aVSM6210kTgY8M:&tbnh=135&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dherbie%2Bhancock%2Bvsop&zoom=1&q=herbie+hancock+vsop&usg=__PvLP6mL6u1q_VyklPlcpwB1QOvU=&sa=X&ei=jbQkTb7YCYGqsAPQ6PXzAQ&ved=0CEUQ9QEwBw

Which is different than VSOP - The Quintet.
If anyone has the first one, let me know. It's hard to find.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EBjazz wrote:
Here's a link to Herbie Hancock VSOP
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kalamu.com/bol/wp-content/content/images/herbie%2520vsop%2520cover.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2007/06/10/herbie-hancock-%25E2%2580%259Cspider%25E2%2580%259D/&h=600&w=594&sz=44&tbnid=aVSM6210kTgY8M:&tbnh=135&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dherbie%2Bhancock%2Bvsop&zoom=1&q=herbie+hancock+vsop&usg=__PvLP6mL6u1q_VyklPlcpwB1QOvU=&sa=X&ei=jbQkTb7YCYGqsAPQ6PXzAQ&ved=0CEUQ9QEwBw

Which is different than VSOP - The Quintet.
If anyone has the first one, let me know. It's hard to find.

Eb


I have it on vinyl!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone, raided my dad's collection and the local library and have picked up

Speak no evil
Blues and the abstract truth
Speak no evil
Out to lunch
Maiden voyage

- that'll keep me going for a little while, and I'll hunt out the others.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keystone Bop, both volumes, and 3 Blind Mice by Art Blakey. Freddie's solo on blue moon is amazing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hub of Hubbard - there is so much great stuff on his solo on Without a Song to lift--in fact, I don't hesitate for a moment saying that this is definitely one of my top 10 favorite solos by Freddie. Definitely love The Love Connection, there is some beautiful orchestration on that record too and Freddie simply plays great. Also I don't believe anyone has mentioned the Art Blakey records Ugetsu and Kyoto, Freddie is in top form on both of those records and how can you go wrong with any 60's Messengers album? On a rarer note, if you can get a hold of Hot Horn, it's an outstanding live date with a burning rendition of The Intrepid Fox. Also, Freddie plays great on both of the Griffith Park Collection records (Vol. 1 & 2) which also feature Joe Henderson, Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, and Lenny White. And I almost forgot, V.S.O.P.'s Tempest in the Colosseum has outstanding solos by Hub on The Eye of the Hurricane, Maiden Voyage, and Eighty-One.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Arnold wrote:
"The Body & The Soul"


Yes, yes, and yes! His solo on Thermo is worth the price of admission alone!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

intrepidpooch wrote:
On a rarer note, if you can get a hold of Hot Horn, it's an outstanding live date with a burning rendition of The Intrepid Fox.


That's the only track I really like on that album, but it was worth raiding the discount bin for it. There's another album from that same session (I can't recall what it's called, though).

Oh, Breaking Point is pretty darn cool, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

intrepidpooch wrote:
Jon Arnold wrote:
"The Body & The Soul"


Yes, yes, and yes! His solo on Thermo is worth the price of admission alone!


Most people forget this one, but there is some bad stuff on there. I remember reading somewhere that Freddie said that The Body & The Soul was some of his favorite playing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you post a link for a Blue Moses cd that isn't $30? All I could fine were imports.

Thanks!!~

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I realized that he uses 2 scales more than any other: The Dom7 bebop and Diminished Whole Tone scales.

You can't diminish a whole tone scale, for the obvious reason - you create something other than whole tones. That sounds like a made up label for something players know intuitively.

I love Freddie! I'm glad I got to hang with him a few times.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll always have a soft spot for "Blue Moses." There's just something about Freddie's swagger on that one. For those just starting out, I would suggest "Blues and the Abstract Truth" and Dexter's "Doin' All Right" as good places to start. Of course, many, many more classics I could list.

Some of my favorite Freddie stuff is when he is playing as a sideman (sorry for any repeats):
Jackie McLean - Bluesnik
Kenny Drew - Undecurrent
Tina Brooks - True Blue
Duke Pearson - Right Touch, Sweet Honey Bee
Quincy Jones (The Quintescence sp?)
with Eric Dolphy (Outward Bound, Out To Lunch)
Don Sebesky (Giant Box), CTI - (must be 70s? )

Plenty more that I haven't mentioned, but those are just a few of my faves.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of them.....Even the CTI's
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