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Big Dave88 Veteran Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 197 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: Who can i send a C to, to make JUST an Eb... |
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I will most likely be coming into some money over the next month, and I want to get a solid Eb trumpet.
Option 1 - send my kanstul meha that didnt sell to get converted to an Eb
Option 2 - just buy a solid Eb
leaning towards option 1
So, input? I have absolutely no idea what would be better, more cost effective, ect. All I do know, is that i will have this eb for a long time - at least a decade, is what im planning. Also, what i do know, is that i am *gulp* planning on an orchestral career, if that helps. From a few threads ive read and one ive posted, there really isnt too much of an 'industry standard' eb - at least much less so than orchestral Bb and C instruments.
I DO NOT want a tuning bell setup, and I dont particularly want an Eb/D, but I dont really see many true eb instrumets out there right now(used). I would much prefer JUST an Eb. Melk is the obvious choice if I go the conversion route, if he will oblige me with just an eb, non tunable bell setup.
Budget is 1500 + what I can get in sale or trade of the kanstul. _________________ "If a composer could say what he had to say in words, he would not bother trying to say it in music."
-Gustav Mahler
Bach Strad 37
Bach Chicago C
L.A. Benge D (no Eb slide)
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benlewis Heavyweight Member

Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 561 Location: Memphis, TN
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dave88,
If you go the conversion route, I whole-heartedly recommend you consider a Ken Larson "S"-pipe conversion. This is the same basic design that Bob Malone developed for players such as Hakan Hardenberger and has resulted in the new Yamaha Artist series YTR-9636. It's a fixed bell configuration that retains a full-length leadpipe.
Also, if you decide that you do want a D option, it can be achieved with spacers rather than swapping the bells & slides. I have one that was made from a medium-large Bach Bb and it plays wonderfully. Ken is a true craftsman and will work with you to achieve the sound and playing characteristics you desire.
I'm sure that the other fine technicians can help you as well; I just happen to have personal experience with Ken Larson. You owe it to youself to at least check out his website.
http://www.brasswerks.com
HTH
Ben |
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davidkoch Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 1210 Location: Allendale, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Ben. Ken's great to work with. I have one of his Conversion Eb's (though it is a tunable bell...) and one of his Bb's. The best horns I've played. _________________ Hi, my name is David and I'm a trumpetaholic. |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member

Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 2726 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Not to disagree with the above, since I've not seen or played one of Ken Larson's conversions... but I have played a Eb built by Charlie Melk from a Bach donor horn, and it was a very, very nice instrument.
I think you have a few good options to consider at least. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3569 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'd contact Larson about the suitability of the Kanstul for the conversion. The few Larson made/modified horns I've tried were quite impressive. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb
Yamaha 731 Flugel
Kanstul 920 Picc
Conn 80A Cornet
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Brian Moon Heavyweight Member

Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 2683 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Blackburn _________________ http://tinyurl.com/ca9e4ht
“When fools and folly rule the world, the end of man may come as a rude shock, but it can hardly come as a surprise.”
-Afghan poet Abdul Rahman Pazhwak- |
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swingintrpt Heavyweight Member

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Posts: 1801 Location: Orange County
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Call Larson and see what he thinks of your horn. I would absolutely trust whatever advice he gives you. _________________ RJM
Examining the difference between
music and Music. |
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jvand678 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 468 Location: TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ditto.... I'm not sure if Cliff likes doing a fixed bell Eb though. His prices are crazy low for all he does and he is a jewel of a human being!
Good luck,
JV _________________ Joe Vandiver |
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