Clarinet Etudes

sp_trumpeter · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: Clarinet Etudes

Hello All,

Have any of you ever practiced or heard of trumpet players working on clarinet etudes? I seem to remember reading somewhere that either Doc or Vizzutti would practice out of clarinet etude books? I already know that many clarinet etudes are quite hard and there are some adaptations a trumpet player would have to make (certain pedal notes and other very high notes). If I get brave enough I'm thinking this could be a summer project. Let me know, thanks!
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butxifxnot · Heavyweight Member Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 2353

Obviously, F and E are outside of the trumpet range (F can be reached with a lowered F# fingering).
But the register jumps and technical elements in the etudes would definitely benefit any trumpet player.
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sp_trumpeter · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject:

That's what I was thinking.
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trumpetmike · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject:

I frequently use the Stievenard Clarinet Scale Exercise books, makes the Arban look like a walk in the park.
I also use a number of flute and oboe etude books (not to mention pieces as well) - having to cope with the extended range is something that I think we trumpeters MUST get used to doing. Composers are no longer limiting the range they are writing for, we need to be able to cope with whatever they throw at us.
The downwards range can be a slight problem with clarinet books, which is why I tend to prefer flute music - similar technical challenges, but without the lower range issues.

lh · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject:

I like using saxophone etudes. Written range is spot on, and both lyrical and technical challenges abound. Especially difficult are intervallic studies that work smoothly on a saxophone but are a real clumsy experience on a valved instrument.

tomba51 · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject:

Carmine Caruso used to assign clarinet books to his students.
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pepperdean · Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:59 am Post subject:

When I studied with Carmine, I worked through the following:

18 Etudes For the Clarinet - Paul Jeanjean
Method for the Clarinet - Carl Baermann
an etude book by Cavallini (can't find the exact title right now)

There were two instructions for me: play the low F and E up an octave was the first. The second instruction applied to intervals greater than an octave. Before playing through the etude, I was to isolate each of those intervals, starting on the top note, and trying to minimize the motion when going to the lower note, repeating the interval several times.

Since the clarinet music was obviously not idiomatic for trumpet, I always felt trumpet music was subsequently much easier.

Alan

Yamahaguy · Heavyweight Member Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3992

Meow...play out of a flute book.

Jerry Freedman · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:42 pm Post subject:

I didn't do it but I heard that Caruso had some students play out of the Bug Bower Rhythm book Eflat Alto version

Craig Swartz · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject:

Schilke always advocated using Amsden's duets which are usually ww things. Claimed in his younger years he could play most clarinetists in the ground. Biggest issue with those was how tiny the print is, IMO. I like the idea of using sax etudes since the range is fairly similar- at least they can't go too low, like clarinet etudes. Oboe would be roughly the same range in written pitch. Check out either the oboe or sax versions of Selected Studies for (oboe or saxophone) by Voxman, pub Rubank. Etudes in all keys, including minor. Trumpet book is a good work out for many reading this as well.

pepperdean · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:23 am Post subject:

Jerry, you helped me remember another book. Carmine also had me work in the Joe Allard advanced rhythms book (saxophone).

For duets, I like to use the Voxman (Rubank) volumes 1 and 2 for saxophone.

Alan

dershem · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject:

I have had teachers tell me to play clarinet parts, violin parts, sax parts - anythingthat would push you and force you to get outside of the box and play more efficiently and effectively.
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ejaime23 · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:30 am Post subject:

When did the Smith and Bitsch etudes stop pushing the envelope for trumpet players?
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Nonsense Eliminator · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:34 am Post subject:

Craig Swartz · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:51 pm Post subject:

gwie · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject:

The Klose book has a section called "68 mechanism exercises" that are invaluable for clarinetists, and I've found them quite useful for trumpet as well. Working on cleaning up all of that movement in varied intervals makes a big difference in the long term!

(I did graduate school on clarinet, and started learning to play trumpet a few years ago).

Branson · Heavyweight Member Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 503

Using clarinet books is a great way to work your upper range as well as develop better control and flexibility. The book I like best is 40 Etudes for Clarinet by Rose.
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/40-Studies-For-Clarinet-Book-1/96417#

And you might want to read this post about additional clarinet material
http://www.thetrumpetblog.com/571/