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christiwans Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 283 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:53 pm Post subject: best Eb? |
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Anybody have a favorite Eb trumpet? I have a 1990 Yamaha Custom and I'm thinking about upgrading sometime this year.
Note: I'd like to stick with a short-bell model, if possible. _________________ Christi Wans
Assistant Divisional Music Director, Salvation Army of Arkansas and Oklahoma
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Cwatki5 New Member
Joined: 03 Jun 2011 Posts: 5 Location: Marietta, Ga
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I like the Yamaha 9636. It plays very well in tune and the transition between C and Eflat trumpet is very smooth. |
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Jon Kaplan Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 300 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Christi!
I asked about this a couple months back, but I bet it has mostly long bell models. It may still be helpful to you in some way though. Here's the thread:
http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107176&highlight= _________________ 2nd Trumpet, Charlotte Symphony Orchestra
2nd Trumpet, Central City Opera Orchestra |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8911 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm told the Schilke E3L-4 with the "beryllium bronze" bell is the way to go.
http://www.schilkemusic.com/products/trumpetscornets#EbDTrumpets _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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christiwans Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 283 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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what about the Schilke E2D? It's convertible and short. _________________ Christi Wans
Assistant Divisional Music Director, Salvation Army of Arkansas and Oklahoma
KINKY BOOTS National Tour
MM/DMA University of Oklahoma
BM Central Washington University |
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7010 Location: AZ
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've played the two Kanstuls and maybe a Yamaha, but my favorite is the four-valve B&S E/Eb.
Brian _________________ Brian A. Douglas
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J_Mase Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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How about worrying how the horn plays, rather than committing to one that looks a certain way? _________________ Jeff Mason |
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christiwans Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 283 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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In my experience, I have always preferred the way short bell horns play better than long bell. Also, they just seem more comfortable for me.
I could care less about appearance - I am totally open to trying some of the long bell horns out, but I have already tried most of them. _________________ Christi Wans
Assistant Divisional Music Director, Salvation Army of Arkansas and Oklahoma
KINKY BOOTS National Tour
MM/DMA University of Oklahoma
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Brian Moon Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 2785 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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The Wiseman Eb/D DTR-900, not the older model, is just as good as a Yamaha and they cost half as much. There is one in the marketplace right now. _________________ Either is fine. My chops always feel great
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pitchlevel Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 537 Location: Guanajuato, Mexico
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I just got a Yamaha 9636, that's the fixed bell eflat/d, not a tunable bell and I think it is fantastic. Both sides play great, I can't wait to use it in the orchestra and it plays the concerto rep with no issues at all. Great horn.
I also just played a friend's old Yamaha short bell eflat/d, I don't know if it's the 6610 or an older version and I was blown away. What a fantastic horn. I wouldn't hesitate to have used that for any and everything. Solos, orchestra, auditions, just a fantastic horn. You can probably find one used and cheap too. If I had played it before I bought the 9636, I might have looked for one myself. |
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andybharms Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 632 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I really like the new Bach Eb (short bell, Eb only). All the sound of the long bell and almost as nimble as the tuning bell trumpets. Ken Larson's horns (both fixed and tuning bell Eb/D) are really good, too.
For what it's worth, I think those short Yamahas are really really good, especially a good one, especially if it is good on both sides. The new ones.... I don't know. They are definitely good, especially if you like the Chicago Cs (which I do), but they feel pretty funky above the staff, and they're a lot of money. _________________ Andrew Harms, DMA
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1530 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: Best Eb |
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Hello all,
I think that the Schilke Eb soprano cornet plays better than most Eb trumpets, and that it is a wonderful alternative in the Eb literature. _________________ Christian K. Peters
Schilke Loyalist since 1976 |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2662 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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+1 B&S E/Eb. What a terrific instrument. There's one for sale right now on www.vioworld.de (not mine, you'll need to wait to prise it from my deal clammy fingers...)
cheers
Andy _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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Paul Tynan Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 182 Location: Antigonish, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Try the new Edwards Eb. Plays like a Bb. _________________ Paul Tynan
www.paultynanjazz.com
Edwards Trumpet/Flugel artist and clinician |
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TAKI923 New Member
Joined: 08 Aug 2011 Posts: 8 Location: Columbus, OH
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I play the B&S three valve Eb/D. It is real good for me in that it is extremely versatile. I can get a very light chamber sound and pull off the Vienna style tonguing on stuff like Haydn using my 1C. I can play a lot of the lyrical orchestral solo stuff (Pines off stage for instance) with a cornet mp. It can sound just like a C or Bb with my drilled out 1B which is great for stuff like the opening of a Schumann Symphony.
I really like to play a lot of stuff on Eb. Many Eb horns produce what I have heard refereed to as a trash can lid sound. I have played a few other makes that really have that tin sound. Not the case here. It plays a lot better on the Eb side than on the D side but all things considered (much cheaper than some others) this is a very good instrument.
I spent some time with the previously mentioned trumpet wrap short Eb trumpets. Though it may take a bit more work to get it sounding right, I have found that the longer horns can do a lot more. This B&S and a few different mouthpieces can do almost any thing! Cheers |
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johntpt 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 07 Feb 2002 Posts: 2284 Location: Toluca, Mexico
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Christi-
If you're looking for a short Eb, Schilke is working on something new, I believe sort of an updated E2D, perhaps for release sometime next year. They put a photo of it on Facebook last week.
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Nonsense Eliminator Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 5212 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:57 am Post subject: |
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If you're looking to upgrade to another short model E flat, frankly I'm not sure that there is something that would be an upgrade on your Yamaha, unless it's in rough shape in which case an overhaul might be the way to go. My inclination, if I were purchasing another instrument, would be to get something else to complement it, like the 9636 or one of the other orchestral E flats. Unless you use the E flat exclusively in a situation where a more compact sound is necessary, it seems to me that a larger horn might be more use than a second smaller one. _________________ Richard Sandals
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tptguy Jerome Callet Forum Moderator
Joined: 11 Nov 2001 Posts: 3380 Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Be sure to put the Callet SIMA Eb/D on your list of must-trys. Jerry spent over 30 years building and testing countless Eb/D horns plus pics then came up with his new horn. Uses same tested bell as the Bb SIMA so it's dead in tune and gives a much bigger, richer sound that other horns while still being easier to play. Definitely worth a check. - Kyle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DSM-VXIgk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIBzFSj1wbY&feature=related |
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