Wild Thing vs Kanstul:

Accordion Ron · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: Wild Thing vs Kanstul:

Hi,

I just bought a Wild Thing Cornet. Great horn, I love it. But I noticed that Kanstul has one that looks exactly like the Wild Thing, and sells for $1000 less. Hmmm? Does this model have the same size bell calling for special mutes? I am wondering what Filp has done besides the valve alignment to make his version worth that much more? I am hoping that someone will say that they are completely different instruments, and that the Wild Thing is worth the extra $$$$'s

scatanas · Veteran Member Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 298

They are completely different instruments, and that the Wild Thing is worth the extra $$$$'s.

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Bill Blackwell · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:51 pm Post subject:

scatanas · Veteran Member Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 298

Read the post before mine and you'll understand.
I made a funny.
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Accordion Ron · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject:

So then, what's the funny?

That's not so funny

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EdMann · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject:

LOL, dude.

Enjoy your purchase. If it was made by Kanstul, it has to be good...
where have I heard that before...

ed

Accordion Ron · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject:

A pox on thee jerk! and about talent. some cats got it, and some cats ain't.
i.e. scat anus! I wasn't trying to be funny. Just wanted some info on my new horn, compared to the Kanstul.

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Accordion Ron · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:10 pm Post subject:

Ok mein lieber. Friday's don't count with me. I've been retired since 99
re: talent! Not learned. It's a gift from GOD. On the other hand skill my be learned by non talented guy's. But without the gift, they can only go so far.

Bill Blackwell · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject:

ChopsGone · Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 1793

I have a Wild Thing cornet (also Bb trumpet and flugelhorn), and it's been my understanding that although the Kanstul 1530 is similar in many ways to the Wild Thing, that the Wild Thing has a different bell and leadpipe, in addition to Flip's "total enhancement" including valve alignment, nickel outer slides, and an additional longer tuning slide for playing outside in warmer weather. And as far as the price difference goes, the MSRP of the Wild Thing in silver is $3200, and the Kanstul 1530 runs $2845 (yeah, I know Jack and a few others sell them for less than MSRP, but that's still a starting difference of only $355 - less than the price of the "total enhancement").

Enjoy your horn. It's a great one.

And about the flugelhorns being identical between the two lines: again, no. The Wild Thing flugelhorn is neither a 925 nor a 1025, but an unique instrument that shares some of the features of each of those horns. Sound-wise, I put mine right up there with my ZKF-1525, and the Wild Thing has a definite edge in responsiveness and agility in fast passages. (Not that I'm ever going to part with the ZKF-1525....)
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Accordion Ron · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:14 pm Post subject:

Well, it comes in a real nice case.

And you have to buy it from Flip. I don't think Dillon's 123, brass & woodwinds carry them.

By the way, my Bach Strad 184 is still for sale in marketplace.

Lawler model T in Gold Plate
Wild Thing cornet silver.
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cjl · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject:

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Flip Oakes · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject:

Sometimes, I wished people would just ask me..

The Flip Oakes short model shepherds crooked Wild thing Cornet is laid out like the Kanstul 1530 Cornet, however the entire cornet is different in all respects. The Wild Thing Cornet has the Wild Thing Bell, which is much different to the 1530’s bell, in addition to that the leadpipe, the gauge of the brass, plus more... In addition, yes, it has the “enhancement, and digital valve alignment”, also the Deluxe case, and comes with a WT mpc.

I recommend that you find a Kanstul 1530 so that you’ll see, hear, and understand how really different they really are....

All The Best,

Flip Oakes

Flip Oakes
“Wild Thing Trumpets”
COME AND HEAR THE DIFFERENCE
http://www.flipoakes.com

“To read what Wild Thing Owners say about their horns, click on this”
http://www.flipoakes.com/testimonials.htm

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760-643-1501
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To Hear the Flip Oakes Wild Thing Trumpet go to
http://www.flipoakes.com/multimedia.htm

scatanas · Veteran Member Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 298

shofarguy · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject:

Wow! You guys sure learn a lot by looking at web photos! NOT!

It's like Old Rafiki from Lion King says, "Look... ha-ar-der." The WT flugel is not a rebadged 1025 and I have owned both of them. The WT trumpet is unique, as you said. The Celebration is unique as well. The Shepherds Crook cornet is like nothing else to play, the Long Model is unique and the C trumpet is unlike any other C in the world.

The really uncommon thing about Flip's instruments is that you get what Flip says you're going to get. You guys really need to "play before you say."

Yeah, you got my hackles up on this one. I've offered my own personal horns as demonstrators to numerous players and I still will put Flip's horns up in comparison to anything out there that you would care to try.

Bring it on.

Brian
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Accordion Ron · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:23 pm Post subject:

Must admit that I was good on the accordion. Studied with Frank Gaviani, and had to practice, as my dad made me.
Havern't touched the accordion hardly at all since the 60's. It's heavy, and I have a permanent crick in my neck from the strap, as I began playing it at age 5.
I am constantly wondering how good I might have been on trumpet if I had started that younger instead of at age 25 in college. Hmmm?
My senior year I was first trumpet in the "Symphonic Wind Ensemble" and there were about 40 trumpet mayor's there. All asking me where I parked my Ferry Boat. Trumpet player's are wise guys donchaknow.