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F.E. Olds Nut Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Posts: 343 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: Good Flugel MPC? |
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I currently am playing on the stock Getzen 3C which came with my Getzen Eterna flugel. I play a Schilke 17 on trumpet and would like something close to that for flugel. Can anyone recommend a good 1c/17 sized standard shank flugel mouthpiece?
Thanks _________________ Del Quadro "The Mother" |
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 10124 Location: Escondido California
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Contact Flip Oakes about one of his flugel mpcs. I have used both the WT and Extreme on a Getzen 4V. They really make the horn sing. Beautiful deep resonance. _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
- TH member and advertiser (name withheld) |
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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1844 Location: Fresno, California, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Curry 1FL or 1FLD should be great! Make sure you get the correct taper for your horn. _________________ The name I go by in the real world is Joe Lewis |
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laurent Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Posts: 897 Location: Barcelona (Spain)
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:59 am Post subject: |
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loweredsixth wrote: | Curry 1FL or 1FLD should be great! Make sure you get the correct taper for your horn. |
Yes the Curry are fine: they have a very smoky, dusty sound!
With a dark and warm sounding flugel the FL cup will be enough and the FLD about useless, but if your flugel has a lighter sound better go for the FLD, or both the FL and FLD. _________________
Bb Trumpets: Courtois Évolution IV, Stomvi Forte,
Buescher T-120, HT3.
Mpcs: Monette B2s3, Kanstul M-B2.
Flugel: H.Bagué (Yam 631 clone in red brass).
Mpcs: Curry FL & FLD. |
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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1844 Location: Fresno, California, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I'm in love with my Curry FLJ, but it does not seem that it is available yet. _________________ The name I go by in the real world is Joe Lewis |
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F.E. Olds Nut Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Posts: 343 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Il check out a Curry 1FL _________________ Del Quadro "The Mother" |
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Al Innella Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 755 Location: Levittown NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried a Schilke 17 flugel mouthpicece ? |
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wvtrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I second the Curry...Here is a live clip from last year of me on a Curry...Gives a very dark sound....
http://www.neil-king.com/timeaftertime.mp3 _________________ Freelance Performer/Teacher WV, PA, MD, and OH http://www.neil-king.com
Yamaha NY Bb, Adams F1 Flugelhorn, Schilke P5-4, Stomvi Eb/D Elite, Bach C 229 bell 25A, York Monarch cornet. |
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Jon Arnold Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Monette, Warburton and GR make some fantastic flugel pieces. Depends on your budget. |
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Blue Trane Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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loweredsixth wrote: | Actually, I'm in love with my Curry FLJ, but it does not seem that it is available yet. |
What is a Curry FLJ ? |
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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Blue Trane wrote: | loweredsixth wrote: | Actually, I'm in love with my Curry FLJ, but it does not seem that it is available yet. |
What is a Curry FLJ ? |
Mark makes four flugel cups now: FLM, FLJ, FL, and FLD. He hasn't made the FLJ available to the public on his website, but I'm sure he'd make one for you if you wanted.
I think it's just as deep as the FL cup, but a different shape. I had to get used to backing off of it, and then it out played any flugel mouthpiece I've ever tried!
Mark is the one who could explain what's different about it. _________________ The name I go by in the real world is Joe Lewis |
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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a pic comparing the four different flugel cups:
_________________ The name I go by in the real world is Joe Lewis |
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Blue Trane Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Joe. I really like my 2FL but at times feel like it's too deep or open. Since I switched to Curry 3. rim on trumpet mpces I thought I might try a different depth cup in a 3. rim, maybe the 3FLJ. |
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Mark Curry Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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loweredsixth wrote: | Blue Trane wrote: | loweredsixth wrote: | Actually, I'm in love with my Curry FLJ, but it does not seem that it is available yet. |
What is a Curry FLJ ? |
Mark makes four flugel cups now: FLM, FLJ, FL, and FLD. He hasn't made the FLJ available to the public on his website, but I'm sure he'd make one for you if you wanted.
I think it's just as deep as the FL cup, but a different shape. I had to get used to backing off of it, and then it out played any flugel mouthpiece I've ever tried!
Mark is the one who could explain what's different about it. |
Actually, the FLJ (jazz) cups could be available as soon as the first part of 2012.
Technically, they are an adaptation of the Old Giardinelli FL cups, nearly as deep as my FL cups, but with a much more relaxed "S" shape to the cup compared to the FL cup.
So- cup depth WithOut all the cup Volume.
This means you can achieve a pretty dark flugel sound without having to think about loading up on air to play it properly.
Probably not enough volume to work in a brass band setting, but plenty of sound for big band and combo work. I have our Reno Jazz Orchestra section on the J cups. They all comment on how easy they are to play.
Backing off the air is key to playing the J cup- it took me a few days to get used to "loading up" on air every time I picked up my flugel. YMMV
Now I don't even think of that at all. _________________ A mouthpiece never missed a note by itself! |
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Roberts-K Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2010 Posts: 435 Location: Chattanooga,TN
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: Good Flugel MPC? |
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I love my Warburton FL and FLX, but Curry and Wild Thing would be good choices as well. There are a lot of great mouthpiece makers, thanks goodness! _________________ 2010 Lawler 25th C7 XL
Lalwer LF-1 Flugel |
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Lawler Bb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Posts: 1140 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Locutus2k Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Curry wrote: | Actually, the FLJ (jazz) cups could be available as soon as the first part of 2012.
Technically, they are an adaptation of the Old Giardinelli FL cups, nearly as deep as my FL cups, but with a much more relaxed "S" shape to the cup compared to the FL cup.
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Very interesting. Since i play on an old vintage Giardinelli flugel mp i will order one as soon as it will become available. Can't wait!
Thanks for your excellent work Mr Curry _________________ ------------------------
Edwards X-13
Lawler TL5 Balanced 30th Anniversary (#2 of 5)
Lawler TL5 L bore
Bach NY Special edition 2008
Flugel Van Laar Oiram Ack
Mark Curry mouthpieces
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Your flugel have big bore , i use to own the same and i notice that pieces with big bore -#20 or bigger- did work and pieces with #24 bore plays and behave better , i use to play with my eterna flugel a Warburton 3FLM with #24 bore and when i switched to Reeves a 43F with #24 bore also.
Hope to hepl you.
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
Reeves/Purviance mpcs |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I use to play an Eterna and never succeeded in finding a mouthpiece that made it sound the way I wanted. Even went to Bob Reeves and neither Bob nor I thought his very highly regarded pieces helped my sound with that particular horn. I ended up buying a Yamaha instead and am still trying to find the right mouthpiece. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart
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Big Daddy Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2009 Posts: 269 Location: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:51 am Post subject: |
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I have a Getzen Custom Flugelhorn and didn't like the Getzen 3C mouthpiece that came with it and purchased a Kanstul C.G. Personal F while I wait for a Monette 6B flugelhorn mouthpiece. _________________ 2010 Getzen 3895 Custom Flugelhorn
2010 Getzen 3850 Custom Cornet
2009 Bach Stradivarius New York 7
1956 Olds Recording
Monette 6BS1
Monette 6B FL - Cornet
Kanstul C.G. Personal F - Flugelhorn
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