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jhatpro
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:18 am    Post subject: Your Best Advice Ever Reply with quote

What's the best trumpet playing advice you've ever received? Here's mine:

As a comeback player in 1987 I was taking a lesson with Brad Goode and he took a piece of staff paper and drew a picture of what he calls "the grip." It showed a set of lips with arrows all around pointing to the center. He added a series of triplets up and down the C scale, and a series of instructions: 1) Crystal clear sound with no noises 2) Tight corners with minimal movement 3) Continuous, relaxed, even air 3) Tight lips.

Finally, he wrote a reminder to work on Arban Characteristic Study #13.

That was 25 years ago. I still have that piece of paper in my case. I'm still not playing at the Jazz Showcase but I'm getting closer.

Thanks, Brad!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how we keep some things and change others while we learn and grow.

I'm still basically doing the same thing, but I would now say "Continuous, concentrated and compressed airstream" rather than "relaxed". Years of experience now have me believing that trumpeters must blow differently than low-brass players to achieve efficiency. (Strive to make your airstream the size of the hole in the mouthpiece, BEFORE it gets to the mouthpiece.)

However, I'm very happy that I could be of assistance!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Continous, concentrated, compressed." I like that! Reminds me of what Mark Twain wrote about language: "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I'm still young and I'll probably get a lot more good advice on playing the trumpet, the best advice I've received so far has come from my teacher. "If all you did was focus on singing through every piece of music you have to play before you play it, you'll be well on your way to being a great musician". Obviously he was exaggerating a little, but it's still a great piece of advice nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot who said it but it was "You can never have enough mouthpieces."

That and "It's impossible to buy a trumpet that's too new or too expensive."

Seriously, the two best things I've learned so far are...

a) Leadpipe buzzing. Learn to get the air flowing and keep it flowing.

b) Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever. Screw up a note but don't screw up the time. Play the whole piece - don't stop if you make a mistake, EVER. Get in the habit of continuing to play though AND IN TIME because TIME COUNTS MOST. One bad note screws YOU up but playing out of time SCREWS EVERYBODY UP. Don't play out of time. EVER.

Learn the whole piece. Get the time DOWN. Don't stop to correct a note. EVER. Learn to play in time by ignoring mistakes and keep going. When you practice, finish out the piece, ALWAYS. Then go back and start again and play the piece. The whole piece. In full. In its entirety. All of it.

Play it until you learn it. Work on a tough passage separately if you have to. Start from the back and work to the front. Just don't screw up the time. EVER. Or the bass player might just unscrew the neck from his J-bass and smack you over the head with it. Maybe more than once. Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You don't have to make the trumpet scream, to be a good player!"
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wind and song
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhatpro wrote:
Mark Twain wrote about language: "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug.


"Words mean things"- Rush Limbaugh
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 pieces of advice.

The first:
If you want to be a professional trumpet player, be the best all-around player you can be. Be able to play some lead, improvise well, good legit, and above all, READ WELL. If you work on this, all trumpet gigs are open to you.

The second:
Don't ever listen to Rush Limbaugh
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 2 cents for best advice from a teacher....

Always show up ready to play. Play in tune, in time and don't play louder than Tpt 1 when in a section. Finally, don't act like an A-hole, who wants to work with one of those.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeyMike wrote:
I forgot who said it but it was "You can never have enough mouthpieces."

That and "It's impossible to buy a trumpet that's too new or too expensive."

Seriously, the two best things I've learned so far are...

a) Leadpipe buzzing. Learn to get the air flowing and keep it flowing.

b) Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever. Screw up a note but don't screw up the time. Play the whole piece - don't stop if you make a mistake, EVER. Get in the habit of continuing to play though AND IN TIME because TIME COUNTS MOST. One bad note screws YOU up but playing out of time SCREWS EVERYBODY UP. Don't play out of time. EVER.

Learn the whole piece. Get the time DOWN. Don't stop to correct a note. EVER. Learn to play in time by ignoring mistakes and keep going. When you practice, finish out the piece, ALWAYS. Then go back and start again and play the piece. The whole piece. In full. In its entirety. All of it.

Play it until you learn it. Work on a tough passage separately if you have to. Start from the back and work to the front. Just don't screw up the time. EVER. Or the bass player might just unscrew the neck from his J-bass and smack you over the head with it. Maybe more than once. Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever.


I once heard that "The right note at the wrong time is a wrong note".
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Stay away from the bridesmaids."
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Practice makes better - nobody's perfect.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drewtpt wrote:
Finally, don't act like an A-hole, who wants to work with one of those.
A proctologist, for one. They make more money than trumpet players... So does Rush Limbaugh, BTW, and judging from some of the posters around TH, I'd bet he has more fun than most trumpet players, too.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"SHHHH!!!!!"


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeyMike wrote:
Just don't screw up the time. EVER. Or the bass player might just unscrew the neck from his J-bass and smack you over the head with it. Maybe more than once. Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott Englebright said it:

"It's a WIND INSTRUMENT, damn it."

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommy t. wrote:
Scott Englebright said it:

"It's a WIND INSTRUMENT, damn it."

Tommy T.


In the right hands, it's a MUSICAL instrument.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lower, softer, slower
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Bond wrote:
tommy t. wrote:
Scott Englebright said it:

"It's a WIND INSTRUMENT, damn it."

Tommy T.


In the right hands, it's a MUSICAL instrument.


From Louis Armstrong and Roy Eldridge to David Krauss and Billy Hunter, I've always known that it was about music.

Scooter's advice is the best I've had on the essential step in getting music out of a trumpet.

(I can't believe that I am argueing with Peter Bond -- see you on Saturday, live in HD.)

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