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jhatpro Heavyweight Member

Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 7298 Location: Chicago area
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:18 am Post subject: Your Best Advice Ever |
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What's the best trumpet playing advice you've ever received? Here's mine:
As a comeback player in 1987 I was taking a lesson with Brad Goode and he took a piece of staff paper and drew a picture of what he calls "the grip." It showed a set of lips with arrows all around pointing to the center. He added a series of triplets up and down the C scale, and a series of instructions: 1) Crystal clear sound with no noises 2) Tight corners with minimal movement 3) Continuous, relaxed, even air 3) Tight lips.
Finally, he wrote a reminder to work on Arban Characteristic Study #13.
That was 25 years ago. I still have that piece of paper in my case. I'm still not playing at the Jazz Showcase but I'm getting closer.
Thanks, Brad! _________________ Jim Hatfield
Glen Ellyn, Illinois
"Unfortunately, music is not my first language." |
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bg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 1132 Location: boulder, colorado
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Funny how we keep some things and change others while we learn and grow.
I'm still basically doing the same thing, but I would now say "Continuous, concentrated and compressed airstream" rather than "relaxed". Years of experience now have me believing that trumpeters must blow differently than low-brass players to achieve efficiency. (Strive to make your airstream the size of the hole in the mouthpiece, BEFORE it gets to the mouthpiece.)
However, I'm very happy that I could be of assistance! _________________ Brad Goode
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: |
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"Continous, concentrated, compressed." I like that! Reminds me of what Mark Twain wrote about language: "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug. _________________ Jim Hatfield
Glen Ellyn, Illinois
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burnsa_92 Regular Member
Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 24
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| While I'm still young and I'll probably get a lot more good advice on playing the trumpet, the best advice I've received so far has come from my teacher. "If all you did was focus on singing through every piece of music you have to play before you play it, you'll be well on your way to being a great musician". Obviously he was exaggerating a little, but it's still a great piece of advice nonetheless. |
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MikeyMike Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I forgot who said it but it was "You can never have enough mouthpieces."
That and "It's impossible to buy a trumpet that's too new or too expensive."
Seriously, the two best things I've learned so far are...
a) Leadpipe buzzing. Learn to get the air flowing and keep it flowing.
b) Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever. Screw up a note but don't screw up the time. Play the whole piece - don't stop if you make a mistake, EVER. Get in the habit of continuing to play though AND IN TIME because TIME COUNTS MOST. One bad note screws YOU up but playing out of time SCREWS EVERYBODY UP. Don't play out of time. EVER.
Learn the whole piece. Get the time DOWN. Don't stop to correct a note. EVER. Learn to play in time by ignoring mistakes and keep going. When you practice, finish out the piece, ALWAYS. Then go back and start again and play the piece. The whole piece. In full. In its entirety. All of it.
Play it until you learn it. Work on a tough passage separately if you have to. Start from the back and work to the front. Just don't screw up the time. EVER. Or the bass player might just unscrew the neck from his J-bass and smack you over the head with it. Maybe more than once. Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever. _________________ By the way, on this corner right here, I stabbed a bum. |
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trumpethead Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 220 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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"You don't have to make the trumpet scream, to be a good player!" _________________ Peter Uppman
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Kofipoiss Veteran Member

Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 162 Location: Estonia
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Wind and song _________________ Harrelson Bravura Bb
Zeff ZTR-300 pocket trumpet
Harrelson SWE 1 1/4 C
Curry 3C. |
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stanton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 555 Location: Skokie, Illinois
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| jhatpro wrote: | | Mark Twain wrote about language: "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug. |
"Words mean things"- Rush Limbaugh _________________ Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
Bach C 229 w Charlie Melk custom work
Getzen Eterna Cornet, Benge #5 Fluegel
Kanstul Besson Prototype A/Bb Pic
Crappy old Yamaha 3valve Eb
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p-nut Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I have 2 pieces of advice.
The first:
If you want to be a professional trumpet player, be the best all-around player you can be. Be able to play some lead, improvise well, good legit, and above all, READ WELL. If you work on this, all trumpet gigs are open to you.
The second:
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drewtpt New Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:46 am Post subject: |
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my 2 cents for best advice from a teacher....
Always show up ready to play. Play in tune, in time and don't play louder than Tpt 1 when in a section. Finally, don't act like an A-hole, who wants to work with one of those. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3572 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| MikeyMike wrote: | I forgot who said it but it was "You can never have enough mouthpieces."
That and "It's impossible to buy a trumpet that's too new or too expensive."
Seriously, the two best things I've learned so far are...
a) Leadpipe buzzing. Learn to get the air flowing and keep it flowing.
b) Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever. Screw up a note but don't screw up the time. Play the whole piece - don't stop if you make a mistake, EVER. Get in the habit of continuing to play though AND IN TIME because TIME COUNTS MOST. One bad note screws YOU up but playing out of time SCREWS EVERYBODY UP. Don't play out of time. EVER.
Learn the whole piece. Get the time DOWN. Don't stop to correct a note. EVER. Learn to play in time by ignoring mistakes and keep going. When you practice, finish out the piece, ALWAYS. Then go back and start again and play the piece. The whole piece. In full. In its entirety. All of it.
Play it until you learn it. Work on a tough passage separately if you have to. Start from the back and work to the front. Just don't screw up the time. EVER. Or the bass player might just unscrew the neck from his J-bass and smack you over the head with it. Maybe more than once. Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever. |
I once heard that "The right note at the wrong time is a wrong note". _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb
Yamaha 731 Flugel
Kanstul 920 Picc
Conn 80A Cornet
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kanemania Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 475 Location: New York
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| "Stay away from the bridesmaids." |
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dershem Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Practice makes better - nobody's perfect. |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| drewtpt wrote: | | Finally, don't act like an A-hole, who wants to work with one of those. | A proctologist, for one. They make more money than trumpet players... So does Rush Limbaugh, BTW, and judging from some of the posters around TH, I'd bet he has more fun than most trumpet players, too.
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Big Dave88 Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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"SHHHH!!!!!"
(while learing picc) _________________ "If a composer could say what he had to say in words, he would not bother trying to say it in music."
-Gustav Mahler
Benge 3 Bb
Bach Chicago C
L.A. Benge D (no Eb slide)
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RNJTrumpet Veteran Member
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| MikeyMike wrote: | | Just don't screw up the time. EVER. Or the bass player might just unscrew the neck from his J-bass and smack you over the head with it. Maybe more than once. Whatever you do, don't screw up the time. Ever. |
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tommy t. Heavyweight Member

Joined: 01 Mar 2002 Posts: 2136 Location: Big Thicket, Deep East Texas
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Scott Englebright said it:
"It's a WIND INSTRUMENT, damn it."
Tommy T. _________________ Actually, I hate music. I just do this for the money. |
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Peter Bond Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| tommy t. wrote: | Scott Englebright said it:
"It's a WIND INSTRUMENT, damn it."
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In the right hands, it's a MUSICAL instrument. |
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DmitriMatheny Regular Member

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tommy t. Heavyweight Member

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Peter Bond wrote: | | tommy t. wrote: | Scott Englebright said it:
"It's a WIND INSTRUMENT, damn it."
Tommy T. |
In the right hands, it's a MUSICAL instrument. |
From Louis Armstrong and Roy Eldridge to David Krauss and Billy Hunter, I've always known that it was about music.
Scooter's advice is the best I've had on the essential step in getting music out of a trumpet.
(I can't believe that I am argueing with Peter Bond -- see you on Saturday, live in HD.)
Tommy T. _________________ Actually, I hate music. I just do this for the money. |
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