Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9372 Location: Heart of Dixie
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:00 am Post subject:
Never tried a 10.5BBC, but if you like the Bach 10-1/2C, I'll bet the Curry piece will serve you well.
I noticed an earlier query of mine on this thread, and I did end up buying a Curry, a 3BBC. It's a terrific mouthpiece, and I like the it on just about every modern and vintage cornet I've tried it on.
I just played it in a rehearsal last night on my Conn 5A cornet. Among other things, I played the 1st cornet part on Sine Nomine (Ralph Vaughan Williams / Alfred Reed arrangement) on it and man, what a cannon that cornet/mouthpiece combo is! Beautiful, big cornet sound and the upper register just pops out. I received compliments from both the 1st trumpet player and the director, which is nice. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2893 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:23 am Post subject:
In a world where accuracy trumps tone quality its the ideal compromise. It responds very evenly across the range. It doesn't have the richness of the Wick but it doesn't have the wooliness either. A better compromise than many that have been tried. The closest I have played to the BBC is the Lewington McCann, but its a tad closer to the Wick set up and the rim is very wide and flat. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:03 pm Post subject:
mattdalton wrote:
I'm playing a Curry 3BBC on a Lawler TL cornet.
Man the whole band sounds great! I can't believe the texture and depth to the ensemble's sound ... loving the raw brass look of your cornet too (it is in raw brass?)
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject:
GordonH wrote:
I The closest I have played to the BBC is the Lewington McCann, but its a tad closer to the Wick set up and the rim is very wide and flat.
I happen to know that Mark Curry makes a wide and flat rim, as that is what I prefer. It's on the WT 10.5, but Mark can put that rim contour on anything you want
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 462 Location: Newcastle, Washington USA
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject:
razeontherock wrote:
Man the whole band sounds great! I can't believe the texture and depth to the ensemble's sound ... loving the raw brass look of your cornet too (it is in raw brass?)
Thank you for your kind words! It is a great band that keeps getting better, and drives me to be a better player.
And yes, my cornet is raw brass. _________________ Matt Dalton
Man the whole band sounds great! I can't believe the texture and depth to the ensemble's sound ... loving the raw brass look of your cornet too (it is in raw brass?)
Thank you for your kind words! It is a great band that keeps getting better, and drives me to be a better player.
And yes, my cornet is raw brass.
Matt, I couldn't resist posting this image of the Curry BBC cornet mouthpieces you sent me from your Puget Brass rehearsal:)
Thanks again, great stuff!
_________________ A mouthpiece never missed a note by itself!
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 504 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:12 am Post subject:
The 3BBC is the mouthpiece that convinced me to switch a bunch of my other setups to Curry pieces. This thing has nailed the sweet spot, somehow producing a rich BBB tone while still offering agility, range, and endurance.
I used to just assume that my upper register had to be stuffier and my endurance halved whenever I played cornet. Turns out it was the Wick mouthpiece that was kicking my ass. _________________ CarolBrass 658R Bb | CarolBrass 506R Bb | CarolBrass 4000 C | Yamaha 631GS Flugel | CarolBrass 6882T Bb Cornet | Besson 60MD D/Eb | CarolBrass 7770F Picc. | Curry & Reeves mpcs
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The problem I have is that Curry cornet pieces don't fit in my early Getzen Eterna. It apparently has a slight larger than normal receiver and Curry pieces go all the way up to the flare on the shank. If I put a piece of tape around the shank then it's ok but I don't know if that's the optimal insertion point.
Does anyone know how the Curry BBC compares to a Kanstul CG Personal? The CGP has a deep V cup and a 20 throat.
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 2655 Location: Anacortes, WA
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:14 am Post subject:
oxleyk wrote:
The problem I have is that Curry cornet pieces don't fit in my early Getzen Eterna. It apparently has a slight larger than normal receiver and Curry pieces go all the way up to the flare on the shank. If I put a piece of tape around the shank then it's ok but I don't know if that's the optimal insertion point.
Does anyone know how the Curry BBC compares to a Kanstul CG Personal? The CGP has a deep V cup and a 20 throat.
Kent
For me the CGP is much brighter. I would call its cup a shallow V. Think of again, a trumpet MP on a cornet shank. _________________ Richard
Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Annadale-on-Hudson, NY or Seattle, WA
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:09 am Post subject:
Mark Curry wrote:
mattdalton wrote:
razeontherock wrote:
Man the whole band sounds great! I can't believe the texture and depth to the ensemble's sound ... loving the raw brass look of your cornet too (it is in raw brass?)
Thank you for your kind words! It is a great band that keeps getting better, and drives me to be a better player.
And yes, my cornet is raw brass.
Matt, I couldn't resist posting this image of the Curry BBC cornet mouthpieces you sent me from your Puget Brass rehearsal:)
Thanks again, great stuff!
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Hi Mark Curry!
Glad to have the chance to thank you personally for the 1.25BBC; it plays like an absolute dream!
Best,
Trygve Butler _________________ Bard College '15
Bach 37ML (70,xxx)
Bach 229CL (modified by Charles Butler)
Courtois C Cornet
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:50 pm Post subject:
oxleyk wrote:
The problem I have is that Curry cornet pieces don't fit in my early Getzen Eterna. It apparently has a slight larger than normal receiver and Curry pieces go all the way up to the flare on the shank. If I put a piece of tape around the shank then it's ok but I don't know if that's the optimal insertion point.
You should definitely bring this to Mark's attention immediately if he doesn't see it on his own in this thread. This is one of the many reasons I love his stuff. He can and will fix this sort of thing quickly.
I had an issue with an older horn with a non-standard receiver, and he was able to send me another copy, with the shank just slightly larger, and it now fits my old antique horn perfectly. You don't have to tolerate "almost" or "close enough" anymore. And you don't have to spend 10X a rational rate to do it either.
Mark is one of the good guys out there. Great products, and extremely reasonable pricing. Hard to find these days, but such people are still out there if you look. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away."
For anyone who is wondering how "Wick like" the sound of a Curry BBC is, here's a video of a January 28, 2012 live performance that might give you an idea.
Matt,
What cornet and mouthpiece (and mpc size) is the cornet soloist using in 16:05 to 16:18? I think he is getting the right british brass band cornet sound.
~Charles
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 462 Location: Newcastle, Washington USA
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:34 pm Post subject:
cshuetva wrote:
Matt,
What cornet and mouthpiece (and mpc size) is the cornet soloist using in 16:05 to 16:18? I think he is getting the right british brass band cornet sound.
~Charles
That's Charley Butler playing, and he was using a Wick - either a 2 or 2B mouthpiece, I don't recall. It is also worth noting that on the concert we just played yesterday, Charley used a Curry 1HBBC.
Charley's cornet is his own creation, built from an Olds cornet valve set with a new bell, new leadpipe, and other tweaks. He's got a strong reputation for being able to improve the way Bach trumpets play (especially C trumpets) and is applying some of that knowledge to the cornet. You might PM him (username "CB's Pro Brass Technology") if you need more information on it or would like him to build one for you. _________________ Matt Dalton
Thanks Matt. From the sound, he is definitely using a wick B cup. I really like the Lawler TL cornet. I'm trying to sell my DEG signature 2000 custom series Bb cornet right now.. I recently switched to playing the John Packer Bb and Eb cornets. They play very very well despite being labeled as beginner line models by JP. They look nice, have first and third triggers and play very well. I'm waiting for my curry 1.25 BBC to come in the mail. I'm currently using wick 2BW. I also have a curry 1.25 VC and DC that I'm tryipoolng to sell as well..
I'm going to be competing as a soloist in the adult slow music division at Nabba this year with the JP271SWS Bb cornet with either the wick 2bw or the curry 1.5 BBC depending on which one sounds and plays better.
Update 2: The Curry 1.5 BBC mouthpiece works like a charm...much much better playability than the Denis Wick 2B and with the same sound timber and characteristics.
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