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roelf
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: HOW TO PLAY HIGH NOTES and LOW G |
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Saw this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IB4omxzqOg
I have been working on playing low G's after playing.
There is something about playing low G's... getting that blood back into the lips, working those muscles (that I found that you use the same muscles on playing low to play high).
I sure am blowing differently because of it.
Any thoughts or comments?
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gbdeamer
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Thanks for sharing.
Very interesting. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Always work range in both directions...
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John Mohan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Great video, and good info in it.
I use Claude Gordon's Systematic Approach book exercises for range, power and endurance. The pedal note routines where you hold the last (pedal) note until all air is exhaused and then keep trying to squeeze the air out really works the blowing muscles. And the Part 2 exercises that consist of arpeggio style exercises going up and up a half step at a time are very similar to the Jon Faddis style triad exercises described in the video. I like the playing of the low note between each high note exercise. This is how Maggio prescribed as well. For some reason, Claude didn't include this idea when he modified the Maggio exercises to create his Systematic Approach exercises.
Why don't you faithfully do the exercises from the video for several months and then report back to us how it goes? I'm sure many people would appreciate that.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| Great video - thanks! |
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jfreer
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| Thanks for the video! |
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percivalthehappyboy
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| Irons' book has a lot of lip slurring exercises, and many of them end on the lowest note for that valve combination. He says it's a vital part of the method. |
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baddoglive
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:33 am Post subject: High note playing |
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Hello, I'm new to Northern CA and I'm looking to put together a big band to play Buddy Rich, Woody Herman and Maynard Ferguson charts.
If interested contact me with instrument, age, experience, influences etc. Peace- DW |
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jiarby
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| Quote: | Hello, I'm new to Northern CA and I'm looking to put together a big band to play Buddy Rich, Woody Herman and Maynard Ferguson charts.
If interested contact me with instrument, age, experience, influences etc. Peace- DW |
LOL! Is this Kurt?? |
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trumpetista
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| garrett901 wrote: | | Always work range in both directions... |
Agreed. One of the things that has been most helpful to me in range development are pedal tones. I like to do arpeggios from a mid-range note (like top space E into an E major arpeggio) down to a pedal note (in this case, the low E below the staff), often along with drones. This keeps one from changing their setting and also helps with the intonation of the pedal tone. Of course, many methods on both high and low note playing (i.e. Phil Snedecor's Low Etudes for Trumpet) emphasize the importance of not over-doing one or the other, but rather, going back and forth between the two while practicing.
BTW, I am a big fan of Phil Snedecor and his Low Etudes book. Check it out!  |
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| jiarby wrote: | | Quote: | Hello, I'm new to Northern CA and I'm looking to put together a big band to play Buddy Rich, Woody Herman and Maynard Ferguson charts.
If interested contact me with instrument, age, experience, influences etc. Peace- DW |
LOL! Is this Kurt?? |
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great video. one of the things that has always helped me was solid low register equals solid upper register (with the right amount of air support). also playing the breath attacks on the low register has always helped get the blood back into the lip and gives that necessary cushion in the upper register again.
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| Thanks for sharing this. Good video. |
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I saw a video about a guy learning to play lead studied with Jon(sp?) Faddis. He would have him go up in thirds I think and then play low G to center everything.
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| mattvj5 wrote: | | I saw a video about a guy learning to play lead studied with Jon(sp?) Faddis. He would have him go up in thirds I think and then play low G to center everything. |
Barry Danielian, who asked Jon Faddis for advice on building up high chops after he was asked to move up to lead for Blood Sweat & Tears after the guy who was supposed to play lead took the gig with Frank Sinatra. Major triads starting on C in the staff. Half note on the root, half note on the 3rd. whole note on the 5th. Go up chromatically with a below the staff breath-attacked G in between each triad. The low G helps bring the aperture back into focus. |
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| John Mohan wrote: | Why don't you faithfully do the exercises from the video for several months and then report back to us how it goes? I'm sure many people would appreciate that.
Best wishes,
John Mohan |
Hey, several months have come and gone. Did you do the exercise consistantly, and if so, what did the exercise do for you?
Best wishes,
John Mohan |
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| Hi John, I think you're asking the OP but I do these only a few times per week. Similar to Caruso studies in that I don't like to push the range envelope on days I have a gig, concert or show and I don't like to do them after most gigs as I prefer not to practice them on tired chops. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| John Mohan wrote: |
Hey, several months have come and gone. Did you do the exercise consistantly, and if so, what did the exercise do for you?
Best wishes,
John Mohan |
Several months have come and gone and my playing is steadily getting better. I tend to find out more about my playing everyday.
The low notes have helped me out a lot. I mean a lot !
The help me reduce mouthpiece pressure and now I feel more of an "egg in mouth" feeling throughout my ENTIRE range. Before I used to feeling like laserbeaming the airstream. It has sure changed my playing.
Here is a recent mp3 of me playing.
http://www.bandarrangers.com/etude_4_16_2012.mp3
I wanted to post something about the "egg in mouth" feeling. Somehow I feel like the air spins inside the oral cavity and creates more power because of it.
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Great video! Thanks for sharing. I found it very helpful. |
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