Yamaha 6330 B trumpet Till Bronner Model

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I am really curious about this discontinued model.I know it was developed for Till Bronner an excellent German Jazz trumpeter but have no idea about its spec other than bore size and reverse leadpipe.Does anyone know how it blows?Is it a lightweight horn?
I would imagine very few got outside Germany or its near neighbours.Any information you have would be greatly appreciated
Andy

[kandor]

Thanks to a very friendly shop, I could try the 6330B together with some other horns at home for 3 days before giving them back. It was around last December.
It is basically a lacquered 6335 with reverse leadpipe and a slightly different bell (slim). Probably there are other inner differences I was not able to notice (maybe the leadpipe taper, aside from being reverse).
Anyway, to me it sounded quite bright and projecting, a bit thin. Not bad but not the soft fat sound I expected from a Till Brönner's assisted design. Maybe responds well to different mouthpieces or... different players.
Altogether I could not find a good reason to prefer it to the standard 6335.
It is also around 10% more expensive. After my testing days, I bought instead the 6310Z.
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[quote="kandor"]Thanks to a very friendly shop, I could try the 6330B together with some other horns at home for 3 days before giving them back. It was around last December.
It is basically a lacquered 6335 with a slightly different bell (slim), and maybe other inner differences I was not able to notice (maybe the leadpipe).
Anyway, to me it sounded quite bright and projecting, a bit thin. Not bad but not the soft fat sound I expected from a Till Brönner's assisted design. Maybe responds well to different mouthpieces or... different players.
Altogether I could not find a good reason to prefer it to the standard 6335.







Thanks for your informative reply Kandor.Could you explain what you mean by slim bell do you mean lightweight or possibly a tighter flare?You say it projects well -was it fairly open in the upper register?
Andy

[kandor]

No, the bell was definitely standard weight, but tighter taper.
I don't know what are the precise technical terms, but imagine in the Bach catalog the model "25". Tighter than the "37", even more tight than the "72".
The 6310Z, at the opposite, has a wider than average bell taper, and is a lightweight horn.
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OK I see what you mean.I guess it has a very focused sound.Possibly the tighter bell taper provides a bit of resistance to counter the freer blowing reverse leadpipe.
Did you find this horn tighter resistance wise than say a bach 37 ML?What was the upper register like -free or restrictive?
Thanks for you earlier comments I see you are in Germany-I imagine few people outside your country will be able to add to this thread.
Many thanks for your help
Andy

[kandor]

Here is a review from a German forum:
http://www.trompetenforum.de/TF/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20533#p180413

The man says that the 6330B has very small resistance, is extremely open and easy responding, especially in the high register, but sounds thin, bright and dull (the opposite of alive). Requires strict control.
Altogether: not enthusiastic.

My impression, and I am not an expert, was of an average resistance, quite easy to play pianissimo (that's my first and very important test). For the sound, simply I was "not impressed". Please note that I am biased and I started with lot of expectations since I love to sound soft, maybe in the direction of Till Brönner or Chet Baker.
At the end I chose the "Z" instead, I play it soft with a deep cup mouthpiece, and the ballad is served.
Since I am lucky enough to own more than one horn, I wanted something "really different".
If the option would be one trumpet only, I would then prefer the Yamaha 6335, the perfect average, the multi-purpose Swiss Army Knife, IMVHO.
Best wishes from Felice.
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I too like a breathy soft tone for jazz.Thanks for your input.I would love to try one of these horns.
Andy