| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Joe Bodiford
New Member
Joined: 28 May 2011
Posts: 8
Location: Tallahassee, FL
|
 Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:13 am Post subject: Facet Mutes |
 |
|
OK, gang, if you have not tried the Facet Mutes, you are missing out. This will be the new standard in mutes. I just got a Facet straight and a cup. The straight mute is very . . . "unstraight" and not like any metal mute. It offers an alternative to a metal straight.
The cup is UNREAL. WILL REPLACE all other cups. The cup volume is huge, thus capturing all the sound from the bell. The sound on the Facet cup is beyond description. I'll be posting some YouTube vids soon.
Both offer virtually NO resistance . . . it's like it ain't there.
Leave it to Terry Warburton to revolutionize the industry yet again.
_________________
>>======;;=====>
Schilkes, Mahillons, Pujes, DelQuadro, Benchmark, Warburton, and many more! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
tommy t.
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2002
Posts: 2599
Location: Wasatch Mountains
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Facet Mutes |
|
|
| Joe Bodiford wrote: | | OK, gang, if you have not tried the Facet Mutes, you are missing out. This will be the new standard in mutes. |
Facet IS the new standard. I have four straights and a cup. I get favorable comments evey time I use one.
But . . .
The real reason for my reply is to note that you have provided an answer to a question which appears in these forae several times each year:
"What do you do with a master's degree in trumpet performance?"
I like your resolution!
Tommy T.
(Of Counsel, Ropes & Gray, Boston)
_________________
Actually, I hate music. I just do this for the money.
Last edited by tommy t. on Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Crazy Finn
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001
Posts: 8336
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
|
|
I don't think it's a Warburton enterprise, but I could be wrong.
At ITG I talked to Bruce Lee at their booth.
But, yeah - they're awesome.
_________________
LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BeboppinFool
Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
Joined: 28 Dec 2001
Posts: 6437
Location: AVL|NC|USA
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: Facet Mutes |
|
|
| Crazy Finn wrote: | I don't think it's a Warburton enterprise, but I could be wrong.
At ITG I talked to Bruce Lee at their booth.
But, yeah - they're awesome. |
Correct, Bruce Lee is the Facet Mute guy. He piggybacked on a booth with Terry at ITG. I tried several, and the ones that looked the coolest didn't necessarily sound the best in my old (1940) trumpet.
The ones that sounded the best still looked pretty neat. I meant to go back and buy a cup before we all left but, alas, I was sorta stuck in my booth and forgot.
_________________
Puttin’ On The Ritz |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Roberts-K
Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
Posts: 435
Location: Chattanooga,TN
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
My understanding is they are moving the production of Facet mutes to Mims ,Fla. and it is a joint venture with Warburton. Just got mine a month ago and we became dealers for both. I like how they sound and have a Black Limba cup and a Cocobolo Straight mute
_________________
2010 Lawler 25th C7 XL
Lalwer LF-1 Flugel |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TrentAustin
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Nov 2002
Posts: 5485
Location: KC MO
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Scott42486
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 529
Location: San Antonio, Texas
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I too have a facet cup mute, can't remember which model though. But I absolutely LOVE the sound I get out of it.
_________________
Bach/Kanstul Frankenhorn
Warburton Mouthpieces |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Accordion Ron
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 584
Location: Haverhill, Ma
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have a Facet Cup, and a Straight. I think they sound great. Especially the cup. Maybe it sounds so good because it blows the sound right back at you. Had to get these for my "Wild Thing" cornet, as my existing mutes just didn't fit that larger bell.
Hey Tommy T. I've got a Master's in Inst. Mu. Ed. And I had to DO trumpet, as they wouldn't take me on accordion! tch tch tch......So, I sort of have a Master's with trumpet performance.
Rather too bad, as I'm much better on accordion!
Last edited by Accordion Ron on Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:25 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Accordion Ron
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 584
Location: Haverhill, Ma
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| By the way, the cup is so big that it won't fit in the case! But they give you a delightful black velvet bag to carry it in. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wiemelen
Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Aug 2007
Posts: 455
Location: Belgium
|
| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
Indeed the best mutes I own.
| Quote: | | the cup is so big that it won't fit in the case |
Same experience here. And I'm always afraid to damage the wooden mutes when carrying them in a bag.
Always made me wonder why there is so little space in a trumpet case to put your mutes and other stuff.
At the moment I use a Protec Ipac triple ... not to carry around 3 trumpets, but 1 trumpet, 1 cornet and mutes (all besides the Facet cup mute) in the 3rd compartment.
So here's a call to the Protec, Bonna, Torpedo (Steve I know you're on this forum too  ) guys ... Please produce us a case for 1 or 2 trumpets, but with an extra wide additional compartment to save carry all mutes, specially the best mutes on the market 
But back on topic ... like I said earlier .... best mutes I know and own
_________________
Trumpet : Yamaha YTR-9335CHS + Yamaha YTR-6335H
Trumpet mouthpieces : Lotus 2L (main) + Lotus 2L2
Flugelhorn : Kanstul 1525 with Curry 1,5FL
Cornet : Conn 80a (1919) with Curry 1,5 BBC + Curry 1,5 VC + GR L66,9 #6 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bill Dishman
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Posts: 1174
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:10 am Post subject: Facet/Balu |
|
|
I am looking into the Facet mutes as well as the Balu.
Hope to see (play) both at the Mendez Institute this summer.
Anyone have any insight on pros & cons of each?
Comparisons?
Thanks...
Bill Dishman
Gainesville, Florida |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Accordion Ron
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 584
Location: Haverhill, Ma
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Sold my 46 Harley to a "Bill Dishman" from California. He never paid me for it. Hope he's NO relation to you Bill. This happened at Altus AFB in 1858. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
AJCarter
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 1280
Location: Indiana
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I havent had a chance to try the facet straight mutes yet, but I can give you some insight about the Balu.
Balu used to make 2 different straight mutes. the Majestic and Exuberance. I got both of them before they stopped making the Exuberance (I don't see it listed anymore). IMO, the Majestic is fantastic. It's louder than the Trumcor Lyric and not quite as tight sounding, yet softer than say.. a Tom Crown straight mute. It can put out volume though. It's perfect for those "Soft passages that need to be heard", or when you need to be muted but don't want it to be super loud.
I'd love to get a facet and record some stuff back to back.
_________________
(List horns here) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Olinhannum
Regular Member
Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Posts: 34
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I gotta say I got one just because they look SUPER SEXY, but the service I received in buying it really helped solidify that it was the right choice.
Add to that of course that I haven't used another mute since it arrived and I'd say it was a good choice. Here's a shot of mine in action last month
http://i.imgur.com/0snTn.jpg[/url] |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
razeontherock
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Posts: 10609
Location: The land of GR and Getzen
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Accordion Ron wrote: | | This happened at Altus AFB in 1858. |
Wow are you old! 154. When do you turn 155? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bill Dishman
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Posts: 1174
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject: 1858 California Harley |
|
|
Sorry...but I wasn't around in 1858. (was 1 year old in 1958)
Have never been to California and have no real desire to go there. (I did hear that San Diego and northern part of the state were both nice though.)
My uncle "traumatized" me on his motorcycle when I was eight and I have never been on one since.
I do like the people that ride them however. Very easy to talk to and I admire the adventurous spirit.
Bill Dishman
Gainesville, Florida |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Accordion Ron
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 584
Location: Haverhill, Ma
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have a Kawasaki GPZ 1100. Got it in 95, and never saw another one like it. It's funny when I take off my helmet at a gas station, and hear the kids say, "Hey! look at the old buck on the croch rocket. duh? how do you spell croch. kroch haha what old buck! I'm only 76.........  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Roberts-K
Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
Posts: 435
Location: Chattanooga,TN
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I was right about Facet production being moved to Warburton's facility, but I was wrong about Warburton moving into a larger shop. I understand they are involved in the move as we type! Didn't mean to mislead!
_________________
2010 Lawler 25th C7 XL
Lalwer LF-1 Flugel |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Maarten van Weverwijk
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 3377
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Facet/Balu |
|
|
| Bill Dishman wrote: | I am looking into the Facet mutes as well as the Balu...
...Anyone have any insight on pros & cons... |
Bill,
-The Ion Balu Majestic (I've got the Red Mahogany) is hands down the best and most resonant soft mute I know; much better than a Trumcor. Its built-in resonator does its work really well, resulting in an almost immediate response and a metal-like sound, even when played at ultra low dynamics in the lowest register. It is THE mute for Shostakovich's piano/trumpet concerto. Personally I wouldn't use it for anything above mp/mf though.
-Facet has as many wood sorts as sound colours to choose from (I've got 4 of them, Sitka Spruce being my favourite), but in general they are all purpose straight mutes with a very even sound, great pitch, low resistance and a superb response. Facet mutes always sound extremely beautiful, so sometimes you might prefer to use a metal straight mute when looking for a thinner or "meaner" sound.
*And yes... the Facet Sitka Spruce cup mute is just A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. Best cup I've ever tried/owned.
Hope his helps,
MvW.
Last edited by Maarten van Weverwijk on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:17 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jiarby
Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 1188
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
