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Pocket trumpet's - are they the same?


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delano
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmavillarica wrote:

I thought I would get an old cornet and have a trumpet receiver put on so it would take a regular mouthpiece. I searched around and, while posting at another forum, found that Ivan Hunter actually has done this. I was able to get an old Holton Collegiate from him with a trumpet receiver. It was quite reasonable.


?This seems to me a little bit the difficult way. A lot of trumpetmouthpieces are available with a cornetshank fa Bach, Curry.
I play my camping-cornet (Ambassador) with my trumpetcup (Warburton 6M) with a cornet 7 backbore.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are no stores that sell mouthpieces here in the Philippines. I figured that it would be cheaper to modify the cornet and just use my actual trumpet mouthpiece.

It was definitely cheaper this way.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are completely right for the Philippines, here in Europe modifying will be costly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Pocket trumpet's - are they the same? Reply with quote

monkeymark wrote:
Pocket trumpet's - are they the same?


No. They are not all the same.

Some models have twitchy intonation and some blow tighter than others. I have owned three over the years - a Marcato, Pocket Max, and a Kanstul. I played the Kanstul every day when I owned it.

The Pocket Max is made in the same (Taiwan) factory as the Marcato - they were identical except for the brand name. Other brands are/were also made in the same factory, including the LA Sax pocket.

The Kanstul is a step-up from the Taiwan-made horns, but it costs more than twice as much. Keep in mind pocket trumpets have a very tight wrap, which causes the blow to be at least somewhat restrictive. As I said before, some are worse than others in this respect, but none can be described as 'open.' This might be a benefit for some - but personally, it wasn’t for me.

Although it's not a Kanstul, the Pocket Max is a very good buy (IIRC, the Marcato was $100 more).

Funny thing about the Marcato – it came with an instruction sheet written in Japanese, which sated the horn was not designed to hit anything or anyone with (Marcato means 'strike' in Italian).

I would steer away from the smaller-belled models in favor of one with a full-sized bell rim. Also stay clear of the 'bargain' models sold on eBay and elsewhere (to state it plainly, they’re crap).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

I like the carol brass, but quite simply I cant warrant spending anywhere near that much at the moment.

So maybe I need to look at this slightly differently.

Maybe I should get a full size budget horn.
I currently use a b&h 400. Yeah, I know they are not up to much, but at least i'm used to it. So I could buy another as they are cheap and keep in the car.
Or I could buy a better main horn and relegate the 400 to the car.

Decisions, decisions!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is nothing wrong with the B & H 400 (made by Amati I think) but it is, after all, a full length horn which won't be that easy to play in the car, even sitting in the rear seat.
I would stick to looking around for a decent Pocket Trumpet such as the Jupiter 416 to keep your chops in shape -- better still, get a short cornet!
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Pocket Trumpets Reply with quote

Any feedback on the Amati Kraslica.

I picked up a used but fairly new silver plated one in LA and I like it. It has a smaller bell with a different taper but I am finding it quite pleasant to play althoubh it feels a bit brighter and thinner in tone.
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