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david mickley Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2009 Posts: 712 Location: Indianapolis, In.
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:52 am Post subject: Trumpet/Cornet |
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Hello all - as some of you might remember I have joined a budding Brass Band [Crossroads Brass Band] and am having a ball playing this type of music. I seem to be able to go from trumpet to cornet with no problem but switching back to trumpet from cornet seems to be an issue. It takes me 15-20 minutes to settle in. I also have noticed that I have lost a little range and some endurance now. I used to have a very comfortable D above high C and be able to go to F and sometimes G above high C but now I seem to top out at E and D is not as easy as it once was. I use a Hamond 5s on the Trumpet and use a Curry 7DC and Curry & BBC on the cornet. my practice habits haven't changed so I am wondering if this is normal or is there something I need to work on? Thanks for any input. Oh by the way I play the 1st part in a community band, the Lead book in a big band and the 2nd book solo part in the brass band. _________________ Chicago Benge 33XX
Burbank Benge 5X 59XX
Yamaha Flugel 231
assorted other horns |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9367 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:23 am Post subject: |
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After playing cornet a lot, I have to re-acclimate to trumpet, but it's because I tend to overshoot the higher notes on trumpet for a bit. I attribute that to playing cornet on a deep Curry 3BBC. mouthpiece and playing trumpet on a Curry 3C. The trumpet seems easy to play compared to the cornet. Going the other way, trumpet to cornet, is less of a deal, but maybe it's because I play cornet more than trumpet. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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musicalmason1 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 731 Location: Pa
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I find using the same rim size and shape and all of my instruments to be very beneficial. It really eases all the transitions, especially when I am going back and forth from trumpet and flugel a lot in one night. I don't do much cornet playing, but I imagine using the same rim would help you there as well.
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:52 am Post subject: |
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musicalmason1 wrote: | I find using the same rim size and shape and all of my instruments to be very beneficial. It really eases all the transitions, especially when I am going back and forth from trumpet and flugel a lot in one night. I don't do much cornet playing, but I imagine using the same ring would help you there as well. |
+1 , i use the same pieces for my Bb and cornet and i switch with out problem. _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
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p76 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1070 Location: The Golden City of OZ
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Another +1 for careful mpc. selection.
Try and keep the size the same, and I have found that the rim shape / feel is important to keep similar.
One of the reasons I use the Curry for Cornet is the feel of the rim is very similar to my Monette trumpet 'piece.
FWIW
Cheers,
Roger _________________ Bb - Selmer Radial, Yamaha YTR634, Kanstul 1001, Kanstul 700.
C - Yamaha 641.
Cornet - Olds Ambassador A6T, Besson 723, Olds Ambassador Long.
Flugel - Kanstul 1525
Mpc. - ACB 3CS, ACB 3ES, Curry 3BBC, Kanstul FB Flugel |
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connicalman Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 1668 Location: West Medford, MA
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Same as above. Pick the cup depth based on the sound you'd like for each, and keep to the same maker's rim.
One of those cornet-to-trumpet mpc adaptors might help you explore this at home or in practice session.
Also, a minute of long low C's helps me acclimate between T & C & Flugel. _________________ kochaavim, csillaagkep, αστερρισμός, konnstelacji, connstellation... ...a.k.a. the 28A!
Other Conns: Victor 5A & 38A, New Wonder & 80A; 'stella 38A; 36A; 'quest 76A... |
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tommy t. Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2002 Posts: 2599 Location: Wasatch Mountains
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:35 am Post subject: |
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connicalman wrote: |
Also, a minute of long low C's helps me acclimate between T & C & Flugel. |
That's very much what I do. I use very different mouthpiece on my different instruments and I use about 30 seconds of low, quiet breath attack type work which I disguise as checking tuning (and actually that's not a bad idea at the same time). Especially when going "uphill" flugel to cornet to trumpet, something that I have not fully identified needs to be reset and just that little bit is enough to do it.
Tommy T. _________________ Actually, I hate music. I just do this for the money. |
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1531 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:53 am Post subject: Trumpet/cornet |
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Hello all,
I also use the same rim and width from horn to horn. Lately, using my Warburton 5D on cornet, Bb, C and MD, MC and 6S for the smaller horns, depending on music and range. I pick the backbore for resistance and intonation. _________________ Christian K. Peters
Schilke Loyalist since 1976 |
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