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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:41 pm Post subject: Tongue control |
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In a letter to Fred Elias from Herbert L. Clarke dated 10/11/1940, Clarke tell Mr. Elias a “stunt” as he called it that moved the tip of the tongue from its’ anchored position behind the lower teeth:
“Well, there is a trick I used to practice when travelling with Sousa, when
my lips did not seem to respond after being up all night with local town bands, and playing my usual solos the next day. You know the condition, eh?
Well, by practicing this "stunt" carefully, knowing just how to get each interval, correctly from high "C" up, I have often reached two octaves above "G" in
the top space of the scale...Sometimes higher.”
“This takes no strength, power nor strain. It is so simple that one is astounded at the results. Of course one must have a good embouchure and control of
the lip muscles. It is difficult to explain, but easy to demonstrate, and is scientific.
When you form your lips to produce the above "G," just touch your tongue, very slightly, to your bottom lip, the tip, which throws the tip of the lower lip
up towards the tip of upper lip, using much power. The tone is produced to the inside of upper mouthpiece at an angle of 45 degrees, instead of blowing
straight into the throat of the mouthpiece as one does in playing the cornet.
Try it, after you have gotten the idea. I can do it without any embouchure, any time. But it must be practiced to get results.”
From a current topic in a dedicated forum I'm not allowed to post in:
drewwilkie86 said:
Quote: | I'll be the first person to stand up and say that I do NOT use Superchops or TCE for everything. I use a variety of tongue positions, depending on the sound and articulation I need. I'm primarily an anchor-tongue guy, until I get up around high C. Then I simply switch to a TCE tongue position. This is why I always "start" people on anchor-tonguing, because the transition to TCE/SC is actually very minimal, and being able to anchor tongue just creates a more pleasant sound below the stave. I'm just being realistic here. |
Realistic as Clarke. Probably a good way to be. _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
"so full of it I don't know where to start"
Horn: "just mismatched Kanstul spare parts"
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horndawg69 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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+1. I love the way Drew is able to explain tongue things. Always very clear. No hype or speculation. Just observations from someone who can. |
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kidtwist Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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April foolery?? _________________ DSG
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crzytptman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Are you calling Herbert L. Clarke an April Fool? I'm just showing you the legacy of embouchure study and application. Sure, you can focus on one aspect and try to make it work. But as Drew is explaining, it works better for him taken as a whole. I mean, Clarke was no slouch . . . _________________ Crazy Nate - Fine Yet Mellow Fellow
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kidtwist Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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easy turbo. just thought it was ironic to read a letter from clarke talking about a "trick" on April 1. lol _________________ DSG
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Clarke must have had more than tricks up his sleeve. At his peak he was playing 270 concerts a year. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.ā€¯ Mingus
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