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Adam R. Getzen
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Hello Everyone,
Just sharing a small update.
Christan Griego (He makes all of the mouthpieces for our Custom Series trombones) should have the flugel mouthpieces for us in the next two or so weeks.
The case specs/measurements have been approved for the first sample of cases to be made. I expect to have a sample in the next month or so for approval.
I will post the horn specs, case specs and MSRP as well as dealers that will have them in stock to try once we get the cases in and begin shipping. Next week I will begin a new thread on one of the new projects we have in the works for ITG 2014. I look forward to sharing our design process with you and continuing dialogue between manufacturer and musician.
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Adam R. Getzen
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Still working on it. We aren't going to just pick a taper, backbore, cup and rim and call it a day. We are working with Griego to include a mouthpiece that best suits the horn.
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chuck in ny
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i am interested in your next trumpet which may or may not be something inspired by the 1s2.
i really can't wait for you to post up next week. this is all so tremendously exciting. |
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Adam R. Getzen
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When Jim and I begin conceptualizing a new horn we pick a sound profile, playing characteristics, make the horn comfortable to hold and play and then work out the cosmetic stuff. We do NOT base our design process on copying other people's work.
The whole point of these endeavors is to push ourselves and our craft to then push industry standards. I understand that that is a huge and humbling task but that is what we are trying to do.
As for emulating or replicating another horn, well, we'll leave that up to someone else.
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Dan O'Donnell
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Adam,
Great approach!
People talk about "base-lining" other businesses in order to be successful however, I (along with others much smarter) believe that base-lining your competition only helps you become as good as them versus being better than them therefore making you similar versus market leading in your industry. 
P.S. I sincerely appreciate your effort towards providing me with a C Trumpet for my friend.
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Adam:
Any update on the expected availability of this new Flugel?
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Adam R. Getzen
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| bwoodard wrote: | Adam:
Any update on the expected availability of this new Flugel? |
We are still waiting to get the first cases in. The horns are coming through production a little more slowly than we hoped but we cannot afford to rush them.
I will post again when we have everything together.
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Adam let me use the new flugal for the weekend to play at church. We played a King's Brass arrangement of Marvelous Grace - 2 trumpets, 3 trombones, tuba, piano, and solo flugal. I have an old Getzen 895, but when I played the new horn, everyone's heads spun around. The response on the sound of the horn was 100% positive. It filled up a worship center that seats 300+, without sounding to bright at all. My mom, who has listened to me my whole life called it a 'warmth' of sound. I used the red brass mouthpipe with a Reeves 42F mouthpiece. I had people that I don't even know come tell me how good the horn sounded, and looked. BTW it is raw. Can't wait to hear from more people what their impressions are of it.
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| Quote: | | I played the new horn, everyone's heads spun around |
YIKES! When I first read this my Catholic heritage caused me to think of the infamous scene in 'The Excorcist" with Linda Blair...
However, I soon regained my composure...
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OK, I'm sorry that I'm picking on you. It's because I am so jealous. I used to love playing in Churches. The Big Sound, the Echo, etc.
The best part is 'Blessing' everyone with your tone....
jbq
p.s. Maybe the language should be changed so that we could say 'Getzening' people... |
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bwoodard
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Looking forward to the day that this simple man can order one for himself. This thread started out very hot and has gone cold.
How much longer do we need to wait? I'd take one without the case if that helps.
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Adam R. Getzen
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| bwoodard wrote: | Looking forward to the day that this simple man can order one for himself. This thread started out very hot and has gone cold.
How much longer do we need to wait? I'd take one without the case if that helps. |
Unfortunately the cases and Griego mouthpiece are taking much longer than was originally planned. I never thought the biggest holdup on this particular model would have very little to do with the horn itself.
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| Adam R. Getzen wrote: | | I never thought the biggest holdup on this particular model would have very little to do with the horn itself. |
In my industry there's a saying:
The 1st 90% of the job takes 90% of the time allotted. The last 10% also takes 90% of the time allotted.
When's my horn going to be ready?  |
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Adam,
Did you consider seling a limited number of new flugelhorns without case or mouthpiece as Getzen TH specials (maybe even marked as such on the horn)? |
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| James B. Quick wrote: | OK, I'm sorry that I'm picking on you. It's because I am so jealous. I used to love playing in Churches. The Big Sound, the Echo, etc.
The best part is 'Blessing' everyone with your tone....
jbq
p.s. Maybe the language should be changed so that we could say 'Getzening' people... |
Ah, the many of uses of the verb "to Getzen:"
isn't that a Getzen, Getzen your heart ...
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| etc-etc wrote: | Adam,
Did you consider seling a limited number of new flugelhorns without case or mouthpiece as Getzen TH specials (maybe even marked as such on the horn)? |
While Adam can speak for himself, I can certainly understand policy being not to release the horn until a mouthpiece is properly mated to it. Even though this works against me in that I'm close enough to drive to the factory in 45 minutes, the complexities of flugel are such that my impressions of the horn could be greatly swayed by horn / mouthpiece combination.
I think its excellent judgment to allow this critical stage of development as long as it takes to really perfect; this is an artform, not a science. Has Getzen decided what taper this horn is? Are there any options about that? I ask because I generally find french taper to both play better and sound better. I realize that would slow down development even further, I'm just curious about what has been decided on that point, if anything. (I'm just hoping you will be able to maximize this horn's potential with one of the existing 3 tapers, making it at least playable with somebody's existing version of a flugel mpc.) |
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Adam R. Getzen
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| ghelbig wrote: | | Adam R. Getzen wrote: | | I never thought the biggest holdup on this particular model would have very little to do with the horn itself. |
In my industry there's a saying:
The 1st 90% of the job takes 90% of the time allotted. The last 10% also takes 90% of the time allotted.
When's my horn going to be ready? |
Jim and I found that the last 5%-10% took about 50% of the total development time.
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Adam R. Getzen
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| etc-etc wrote: | Adam,
Did you consider seling a limited number of new flugelhorns without case or mouthpiece as Getzen TH specials (maybe even marked as such on the horn)? |
Every week that goes by without the new case and mouthpiece makes me lean more and more that way...
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Adam R. Getzen
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| razeontherock wrote: | While Adam can speak for himself, I can certainly understand policy being not to release the horn until a mouthpiece is properly mated to it. Even though this works against me in that I'm close enough to drive to the factory in 45 minutes, the complexities of flugel are such that my impressions of the horn could be greatly swayed by horn / mouthpiece combination.
I think its excellent judgment to allow this critical stage of development as long as it takes to really perfect; this is an artform, not a science. Has Getzen decided what taper this horn is? Are there any options about that? I ask because I generally find french taper to both play better and sound better. I realize that would slow down development even further, I'm just curious about what has been decided on that point, if anything. (I'm just hoping you will be able to maximize this horn's potential with one of the existing 3 tapers, making it at least playable with somebody's existing version of a flugel mpc.) |
The taper is the same as our 3895. We are still very open to manufacturing the other sets IF there is enough call for them. This will not happen right out the gate.
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