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cornet74
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 Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:59 pm Post subject: intermediate horns |
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i am finding that as i age, the intermediate horns are helpful. i'm not a comeback player although i'm just starting to play again after an almost 7 month layoff due to pnemonia. longest layoff i've ever had since i started playing @ 9. i'll be 58 next month.
i'm wondering if any of you feel the same way about "down-sizing."
I've also gone from the world of 5 diameter mpcs. to 10.5 diameter mpcs.
i do not say this type of thing works for all, but maybe for some?
thank you
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BGinNJ
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| I don't believe a lesser-quality instrument of any kind helps you play better. If having enough wind is the issue, then a smaller bore horn and/or smaller mouthpiece would make things easier. Note there's no such thing as an intermediate mouthpiece! |
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Crazy Finn
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Intermediate horns are often slightly jazzed up student models.* They're a good deal for makers and dealers. They might play tighter than a professional horn, but so do many student horns - which are far easier to find at much better prices.
If you want a tighter horn, it's possible to find such things in professional models. Something like a 6310Z or 8310Z, or the Jupiter Ingram model might be up your alley.
| BGinNJ wrote: | | I don't believe a lesser-quality instrument of any kind helps you play better. If having enough wind is the issue, then a smaller bore horn and/or smaller mouthpiece would make things easier. Note there's no such thing as an intermediate mouthpiece! |
Indeed. Many intermediate horns are lesser quality.
* There are exceptions. The Getzen intermediate models - (Capri, Eterna II, etc) are very nice horns. I like how some of them play better than many of the Strads I've played. Not all, but some.
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VetPsychWars
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I agree with the exceptions and it's more a matter of what you get for what you're playing. Some vintage "student" (grr) horns are just as good as any others you might find, and it's still a question of you and the horn together with your mouthpiece. If it works, it works, and who cares how much it cost?
Chet Baker played on a mid-60s Buescher Aristocrat and recorded with it. At the time, those were indeed aggressively marketed to students because that's where the money is. I think we can agree that horn didn't hold him back at all.
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