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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
Joined: 17 Sep 2014 Posts: 19 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:03 pm Post subject: Any Late Starters who became great trumpeters? |
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Are there any really good professional trumpeters who didn't start playing trumpet until they were 50?
I started playing trumpet when I was 50, and do not play any other instrument or sing. All the trumpeters I read about started playing when they were kids. It would be cool to know of some that started later.
No matter what answers turn up, I'll keep playing because it is fun and I am slowly getting better. Nevertheless, it would be fun to know! |
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jiarby Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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I hope so.. I just turned 49! At this point (after 3-1/2 yrs) I am still a work in progress, but I get better every week.... it's bound to add up eventually. |
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weeweetrumpet Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Nvidal is gonna win NY Phil and he's an old banker. We all in the trumpetherald community are so proud of him. _________________ Don't hate me because I'm French |
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:44 am Post subject: |
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jiarby wrote: | I hope so.. I just turned 49! At this point (after 3-1/2 yrs) I am still a work in progress, but I get better every week.... it's bound to add up eventually. |
Don't give up - I am still a work in progress after 11 years! |
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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weeweetrumpet wrote: | Nvidal is gonna win NY Phil and he's an old banker. We all in the trumpetherald community are so proud of him. |
Cool! Who is he/she (what is the rest of their name)? Does he/she have a web site? |
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beagle Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 419 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Although he did start young, Doc Cheatham did his finest playing when he was over 70 years old.
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nvidal Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Trumpet2003 wrote: | weeweetrumpet wrote: | Nvidal is gonna win NY Phil and he's an old banker. We all in the trumpetherald community are so proud of him. |
Cool! Who is he/she (what is the rest of their name)? Does he/she have a web site? |
I have to win it first:) But I'm not a late starter. Started when I was 10, solfege, mouthpiece buzzing then after a month, right into the Arban manual, played Carnival of Venice when I was in the 8th grade. Wouldn't call that a late start. |
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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nvidal wrote: | Trumpet2003 wrote: | weeweetrumpet wrote: | Nvidal is gonna win NY Phil and he's an old banker. We all in the trumpetherald community are so proud of him. |
Cool! Who is he/she (what is the rest of their name)? Does he/she have a web site? |
I have to win it first:) But I'm not a late starter. Started when I was 10, solfege, mouthpiece buzzing then after a month, right into the Arban manual, played Carnival of Venice when I was in the 8th grade. Wouldn't call that a late start. |
Thanks for the correction, but hopefully someone knows someone who is a successful professional late starter! |
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trumpetplayer0103 Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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[youtube] http://youtu.be/R3iXPA5vCuE
Tom Hooten claims to be a late starter. I don't know how old he was when he started, though.
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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trumpetplayer0103 wrote: | [youtube] http://youtu.be/R3iXPA5vCuE
Tom Hooten claims to be a late starter. I don't know how old he was when he started, though.
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Great video, thanks! However, part way through he explains that he was taking lessons in high school and then earned bachelors and masters degrees in music, so he is not a late starter. He changed his embouchure just after earning his bachelors degree, which is interesting.
Still looking and hoping that there are some great professional trumpeters who started playing in their 50's or later... |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Tom is like Tiger Woods - how many times did he change his swing in search of perfection even after obliterating the field? He continues to change and refine his setup in search of the perfect balance between sound, flexibility and efficiency. I marvel at his process and search of perfection. He was already a great player when he started in LA but has grown so much during his short time here. I wonder what his inspiration is.
Must be me...
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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MrClean wrote: | Tom is like Tiger Woods - how many times did he change his swing in search of perfection even after obliterating the field? He continues to change and refine his setup in search of the perfect balance between sound, flexibility and efficiency. I marvel at his process and search of perfection. He was already a great player when he started in LA but has grown so much during his short time here. I wonder what his inspiration is.
Must be me...
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Off base, but interesting and hysterical! |
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MrClean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Not really - it was a comment toward the post directly above it.
Tom was a late starter of sorts if you consider he didn't start taking lessons until his senior year of HS, and he only took a couple. _________________ Jim Wilt
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lmaraya Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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DJ Barraclough of the Dallas Brass started in his second year of college, but he already played mean trombone when did the change to trumpet. |
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:56 am Post subject: |
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lmaraya wrote: | DJ Barraclough of the Dallas Brass started in his second year of college, but he already played mean trombone when did the change to trumpet. |
Interesting, thanks! There might not be anybody yet, but it would be nice to know if there is anyone who is really a late starter - started playing trumpet at age 50 (plus or minus ten years), without previously playing a brass (or ideally any) instrument. |
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lmaraya Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Trumpet2003 wrote: | lmaraya wrote: | DJ Barraclough of the Dallas Brass started in his second year of college, but he already played mean trombone when did the change to trumpet. |
Interesting, thanks! There might not be anybody yet, but it would be nice to know if there is anyone who is really a late starter - started playing trumpet at age 50 (plus or minus ten years), without previously playing a brass (or ideally any) instrument. |
I think this is the closest you could get so far:
http://www.hornsociety.org/home/ihs-news/26-people/honorary/577-charles-kavalovski |
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:04 am Post subject: |
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lmaraya wrote: | Trumpet2003 wrote: | lmaraya wrote: | DJ Barraclough of the Dallas Brass started in his second year of college, but he already played mean trombone when did the change to trumpet. |
Interesting, thanks! There might not be anybody yet, but it would be nice to know if there is anyone who is really a late starter - started playing trumpet at age 50 (plus or minus ten years), without previously playing a brass (or ideally any) instrument. |
I think this is the closest you could get so far:
http://www.hornsociety.org/home/ihs-news/26-people/honorary/577-charles-kavalovski |
Cool example, thanks! His double career is very impressive. However, even though the odds appear to be getting longer and longer, I still hope to discover someone who started way later than high school... |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think there is always hope when it comes to what a person can achieve, no matter when they start.
A story I like to tell is about a woman I met at an Easter gig years ago. She was in her late 50s/early 60s, and when she started playing, it was clear she was a polished professional flautist and not the run of the mill part-timer who plays for church occasionally.
We got to chatting over the breakfast break between the rehearsal and the service and it turned out that she was a comeback player. She had played in high school and was good enough, but she got married right out of high school, had a few kids, and was largely a stay-at-home mom during that time. She didn't go to college after high school - her husband was the bread winner and provided quite well for the family, so her focus was on her kids and the home.
When her youngest child enrolled in college, she didn't want to sit around being an empty-nester, so she enrolled in college too, and decided to pick the flute back up. She'd enjoyed it back in high school and thought it would be fun.
By the time I met her she was teaching college-level flut, so she clearly excelled at it.
As long as you've got your health and your wits about you, it's never too late IMO - it just depends on how badly you want it, and if you have the time to truly pursue it. The lady from my story had the time, so she took it as far as she could go. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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Trumpet2003 Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:17 am Post subject: |
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trickg wrote: | I think there is always hope when it comes to what a person can achieve, no matter when they start.
A story I like to tell is about a woman I met at an Easter gig years ago. She was in her late 50s/early 60s, and when she started playing, it was clear she was a polished professional flautist and not the run of the mill part-timer who plays for church occasionally.
We got to chatting over the breakfast break between the rehearsal and the service and it turned out that she was a comeback player. She had played in high school and was good enough, but she got married right out of high school, had a few kids, and was largely a stay-at-home mom during that time. She didn't go to college after high school - her husband was the bread winner and provided quite well for the family, so her focus was on her kids and the home.
When her youngest child enrolled in college, she didn't want to sit around being an empty-nester, so she enrolled in college too, and decided to pick the flute back up. She'd enjoyed it back in high school and thought it would be fun.
By the time I met her she was teaching college-level flut, so she clearly excelled at it.
As long as you've got your health and your wits about you, it's never too late IMO - it just depends on how badly you want it, and if you have the time to truly pursue it. The lady from my story had the time, so she took it as far as she could go. |
Thanks for the inspiring story and encouragement! |
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ErikE Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:03 am Post subject: Late beginner |
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I've had one student who didn't start until he was 48, I think. After four years of lessons, he joined a community band, able to play on their easier numbers. A year after that and he's able to do some easy jamming with friends on jazz tunes.
I don't think he'll be noted as an exceptional trumpeter, but he has fun playing on a regular basis, which was his goal to begin with.
Hang in there! _________________ Erik Esvelt
Selmer Paris Sigma
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