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stupor
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:37 am Post subject: Will clarinet playing mess my trumpet embouchure? |
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I started recently learning clarinet after 3 years of trumpet playing come back. I noticed it has some negative effects on my trumpet embouchure. Mainly my upper lip feels stiffer and less vibrant on trumpet. I think it is mostly because there are different muscles involved and it should go away in time if I keep practising both instruments. To me it seems that there is also quite a difference with required air pressure between clarinet and trumpet.
If there is someone with longer experience on both instruments, I would appreciate any comments.
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:39 am Post subject: Re: Will clarinet playing mess my trumpet embouchure? |
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| stupor wrote: | I started recently learning clarinet after 3 years of trumpet playing come back. I noticed it has some negative effects on my trumpet embouchure. Mainly my upper lip feels stiffer and less vibrant on trumpet. I think it is mostly because there are different muscles involved and it should go away in time if I keep practising both instruments. To me it seems that there is also quite a difference with required air pressure between clarinet and trumpet.
If there is someone with longer experience on both instruments, I would appreciate any comments.
-Tommi |
I would think the bigger concern with clarinet playing is the effect it will have on your brain and personality. |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Will clarinet playing mess my trumpet embouchure? |
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| stupor wrote: | I started recently learning clarinet after 3 years of trumpet playing come back. I noticed it has some negative effects on my trumpet embouchure. Mainly my upper lip feels stiffer and less vibrant on trumpet. I think it is mostly because there are different muscles involved and it should go away in time if I keep practising both instruments. To me it seems that there is also quite a difference with required air pressure between clarinet and trumpet.
If there is someone with longer experience on both instruments, I would appreciate any comments.
-Tommi |
One of the best lead jazz trumpet players I know is quite proficient with the clarinet. Perhaps more care will be needed in warming up and down on trumpet too make things are "loose." Avoid the belief that it will be detrimental, because then it will be.
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| homecookin wrote: | | They don't call it the "TORTURE STICK". for nothin'!!! |
(I heard this from a sax player).
Trumpet is sometimes known as the . |
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No more playing by ear. You'll have to learn to reed.
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Will clarinet playing mess my trumpet embouchure? |
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| snichols wrote: | | I would think the bigger concern with clarinet playing is the effect it will have on your brain and personality. |
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Middle school band director here. The answer to your question is yes. I go through it every year when I am teaching beginners how to play their instruments and I have to model for them. My trumpet embouchure goes all to pieces.
But, you can get it back. Long tones!
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mm55
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You can get used to it. My college curriculum included a semester of clarinet class, and after the first week or so, it had little effect on trumpet playing (my principle instrument).
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I think it may have to do with how your trumpet embouchure functions in the first place. When I was a conservatory student (back in the Dark Ages) I had to take a semester of pretty intensive clarinet lessons. I also had to play a portion of the Mozart Clarinet Concerto for my comprehensive exam three years later. No detrimental effects either time.
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| mm55 wrote: | | You can get used to it. My college curriculum included a semester of clarinet class, and after the first week or so, it had little effect on trumpet playing (my principle instrument). |
This was my exact same experience. Trying to practice trumpet right after clarinet was problematic (and oboe....forget it), but the effect was very temporary.
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| Brad361 wrote: | | Trying to practice trumpet right after clarinet was problematic (and oboe....forget it), but the effect was very temporary.
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I found it useful to end clarinet sessions by "clearing" my embouchure with some horse-flapping, and then reset by playing some trumpet long tones, immediately after clarinet, even if it did not lead to a full practice session. Even when my alternate instrument study was on trombone, I tried to finish with trumpet every time. I think it helped.
But it was long ago.
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The clarinet embouchure used to bother me with trumpet - especially back in college and early in my teaching career. Years later, not so much. My clarinet embouchure probably isn't great, but I can play and sound alright for what I do, so that's good enough for me.
The same used to be true with trombone or baritone or low brass in general. Trumpet would be real weird afterward. Now, it's whatever. Maybe it feels a little small for about 5 seconds. Then it's fine.
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Clarinet always caused problem with my embouchure, but did not stop me from playing both when teaching lessons and such. Flute was the best woodwind fit for me, never bothered my trumpet chops. I never felt comfortable going back and forth between trumpet and trombone/euphonium. However if my chops were really worn out, I would sometimes do some euphonium playing to activate different muscles, relax others and seem to help me recover a bit faster (I think...or imagined.... ha). - Pete
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| No, assuming your embouchure is not already messed up... |
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area51recording
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| Not clarinet, but I play sax, and after playing tenor for a while it's hard to get my lips to vibrate for trumpet. However, it's probably just me, as there are a lot of guys who play both reeds and trumpet and get along nicely....... |
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