• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Intro from Massachusetts


Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Comeback Players
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:08 pm    Post subject: Intro from Massachusetts Reply with quote

Greetings and hello from North Central Massachusetts. My name is Steve, and I am a newbie to the board and a "comeback kid" from what I can tell. I'm 66, almost 67 years old and started playing in the 2nd grade in a grammar school program and played until I completed my 2nd year of high school. I just recently bought a old student Yamaha, and started to play again. Then very recently I came across a vintage Conn 6B early model trumpet in very good shape and bought that and and having it refurbished at Osmun music. I'm a bit of a gear head for any of my hobbies so I can see where this is going.

I put it down in my junior year of high-school as we had a very aggressive high school music director, and it was 3 days a week after school and every Saturday band practice. I loved the band, as especially the orchestra, but at 16 I wanted a car so I could date girls. Dad said, "get a job". So I quit the band and worked up until summer of 2012 when I retired from high tech.

But I'm a huge jazz fan, love the quartets and quintets and even big bands of the 40s/50s and 60s. Ellington, Miles, Coltrane, Herbie Hancock, Shorter, Horace Silver, Brubeck, etc. For no particular reason I decided to start to play again.

So far I've been building my lips with scales and exercises and I bought a Real Book of about 400 standard jazz tunes, so that could keep me busy for a while. There is a great and very active local music community here and all sorts of opportunities to play with some real musicians that are very welcoming to us amateurs.

Right now my only goal is to enjoy playing again, learn some of the great tunes I loved listening too, and spend an hour or two a day playing. My wife and I hit the gym in the morning 3 days a week, I'm also a amateur photographer and ride motorcycles in the good weather and snow ski in the winter. But I've always loved music and it's great to be back.

Learning a lot here and I liked the thread in here on goals and and also some of the others.

Keep making music all!

Steve
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
GeorgeB
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 20 Apr 2016
Posts: 1063
Location: New Glasgow, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck on the comeback, Steve.
I am an 80 year old comeback kid. Played during the 50s and 60s then gave it up in '65. I came back in March of this year. I have a reasonable range ( D over high C above the staff ) and will try for an F. Lots of playing opportunities here, especially beginning in the Fall.

Keep us informed on how you are doing.
George
_________________
GeorgeB
1960s King Super 20 Silversonic
2016 Manchester Brass Custom
1938-39 Olds Recording
1942 Buescher 400 Bb trumpet
1952 Selmer Paris 21 B
1999 Conn Vintage One B flat trumpet
2020 Getzen 490 Bb
1962 Conn Victor 5A cornet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Turkle
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Posts: 2450
Location: New York City

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with your comeback.

Just make sure never to believe a single word anyone posts on this site, ever, for any reason!
_________________
Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
Yamaha 8310Z flugel
Curry 3.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks George and Turkle.

It's fun just rediscovering how much fun I used to have with playing. Back then the closest I ever came to jazz was playing Hello Dolly in the marching band, back in maybe 62 or 63.. now I'm playing Freddie the Freeloader and tunes like God Bless the Child and it's a hoot!

I'm surprising myself as to how quickly so much of it is coming back to me. Learning so much more with the internet and all it brings to the table, plus my much deeper appreciation for music in general.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
GeorgeB
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 20 Apr 2016
Posts: 1063
Location: New Glasgow, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear that, Steve. Things didn't come back to me easily, probably due to my advanced age and some problems ( especially vision ) related to that. Remembering all the notes in the various keys, learning to stay focussed, etc., all were a problem that I still need to work on now and then.

Good luck, friend.
_________________
GeorgeB
1960s King Super 20 Silversonic
2016 Manchester Brass Custom
1938-39 Olds Recording
1942 Buescher 400 Bb trumpet
1952 Selmer Paris 21 B
1999 Conn Vintage One B flat trumpet
2020 Getzen 490 Bb
1962 Conn Victor 5A cornet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a call from Osmun Music today. My Conn 6B early model trumpet is ready, and I'll be picking it up tomorrow. Excited about that. They were doing a refurb on it to fix a small dent, a stuck main tuning slide, a sticky 3rd valve. They said they would bring it back up to the day it left the factory from a performance perspective and for a 1956 horn it is in nice cosmetic condition. They do a chemical bath as standard procedure as a starting point.

From there we can determine if there is any benefit to get a PVA based on my comeback kid status.

I found this on CL one town away from me and picked it up really right. Well worth the tune-up Osmun gave it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went down to Osmun and got the trumpet today. They did an absolutely remarkable job restoring this 60 year old instrument to very close to factory out the door condition.

It has a much fuller and open sound than the Yamaha student horn I had been using. I bought a Protec case as the original hard case had very questionable hinges and latches. No need to have an accident happen while pulling the instrument out of a car only to have it clang to the pavement as the latches or hinges let go.

Now it's up to me to make beautiful sound with it.




Last edited by steveleblanc on Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:52 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
razeontherock
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Posts: 10609
Location: The land of GR and Getzen

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorgeous! Conn sure did things right, and WAY early in the development of the instrument.

Not many of us avid skiers here, but I skied the Berklees (Brody Mountain, was it?) blizzard of '78, having saved my pennies from shoveling snow and visited my Sister who was attending Williams.

Welcome to TH!

Ray
_________________
"And this is life: that you know the Son, and the One who sent Him." The rest is just details
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

razeontherock wrote:
Gorgeous! Conn sure did things right, and WAY early in the development of the instrument.

Not many of us avid skiers here, but I skied the Berklees (Brody Mountain, was it?) blizzard of '78, having saved my pennies from shoveling snow and visited my Sister who was attending Williams.

Welcome to TH!

Ray


Thanks Ray! The more I look at this trumpet the more I realize what a transformation they made. It looks incredibly close to a factory fresh instrument. Only a trumpet player holding it close up and giving it a good look-over would see small blemishes, and even then, they would do nothing but make it more authentic and speak a little to it's age and the stories it might tell if it could.

Maybe I can learn to help it tell some stories. We'll see.

Brodie Mt. was in a tiny town western Mass town almost on the NY border. I never skied there but I have a close friend who grew up out there and that was his home Mountain. I live in more central Mass above Worcester, actually on the New Hampshire border, and I ski Mt Wachusett locally, and then usually drive into VT to ski any larger mountains. I like Okemo, and Stratton and Mt Snow there.

I ride my motorcycles through the area you mentioned and past Williams College all the time. What a beautiful area it is out there.

I'm gobbling up all the knowledge to be had here. So excited to pick up the horn again and now to have one that is actually a quality instrument AND has some history. Now to pay the dues and put in the time and effort to make it sing.



Last edited by steveleblanc on Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:19 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
James Becker
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 2827
Location: Littleton, MA

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Steve for your business, and for sharing your positive experience with the TH community. Enthusiasts like yourself make our job so much fun. This is my 40th year repairing brasswinds, I love my job!
_________________
James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
77 Powdermill Road Rt.62
Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com

Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store https://www.ups.com/dropoff?loc=en_US
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Becker wrote:
Thank you Steve for your business, and for sharing your positive experience with the TH community. Enthusiasts like yourself make our job so much fun. This is my 40th year repairing brasswinds, I love my job!


Thanks Jim, it was great for me to be able to bring it in and have you look it over. I couldn't be more pleased with the results.

You're just off my usual route to Boston, so I can see some little side trips in my future just to peek at the eye candy that adorns the walls and shelves in your beautiful shop.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playing at least an hour to 90 minutes a day. Taking after my gym regimen I am documenting my exercises and keeping some short notes on my progress. My range with good tone is below the staff G to top of staff E, higher notes are iffy, still but I see progress weekly which is a good motivator.

Doing exercises out of a Colin book that was in the Conn 6B case when I bought it. I can see where it is helpful. I am mentally "hearing" the note before I play it, aka Adam's style from a thread I got here which has been helpful.

I'm also having some fun with the Real Book, and some of the easier ones there, including Freddie Freeloader (pretty and easy), God Bless the Child, Always, 502 Blues, a few others. Wife hasn't thrown me out yet. Although she asked me to go downstairs during a recent Red-Sox game.

Anyway, the great thing about being a beginner again, is getting to make obvious progress on a daily basis.

It feels great to have the trumpet in my hands again, and I'm paying more attention to music reading than I ever did before. Also discovering some new music in the Real Book that is feeding right into my love of jazz and hi-fi hobby. (still a big vinyl collector here)

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
GeorgeB
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 20 Apr 2016
Posts: 1063
Location: New Glasgow, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff, Steve, just stick with it. It has taken me 5 months to get to a point where I have a decent range that will allow me to play lead in pretty much any of the local community bands here. I am comfortable up to high C above the staff, and can reach D and E, but the highest any of the local band charts I've seen don't call for more than an occasional A above the staff. So I don't see any point in working at getting much more range, other than perhaps trying to play up to an F just so I can tell myself I can do it.
_________________
GeorgeB
1960s King Super 20 Silversonic
2016 Manchester Brass Custom
1938-39 Olds Recording
1942 Buescher 400 Bb trumpet
1952 Selmer Paris 21 B
1999 Conn Vintage One B flat trumpet
2020 Getzen 490 Bb
1962 Conn Victor 5A cornet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeB wrote:
Good stuff, Steve, just stick with it. It has taken me 5 months to get to a point where I have a decent range that will allow me to play lead in pretty much any of the local community bands here. I am comfortable up to high C above the staff, and can reach D and E,but the highest any of the local band charts I've seen don't call for more than an occasional A above the staff. So I don't see any point in working at getting much more range, other than perhaps trying to play up to an F just so I can tell myself I can do it.


George, I'm impressed and also hopeful that I can reach those notes sometime in the next 6 months. How often to you usually practice and for how long? I'm trying to do somewhere between an hour to 90 mins a day. ..give or take.

Great to hear you've come that far, that fast!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
GeorgeB
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 20 Apr 2016
Posts: 1063
Location: New Glasgow, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

steveleblanc wrote:

George, I'm impressed and also hopeful that I can reach those notes sometime in the next 6 months. How often to you usually practice and for how long? I'm trying to do somewhere between an hour to 90 mins a day. ..give or take.

Great to hear you've come that far, that fast!


I started out practicing 2 hours in the early morning and an hour in the afternoon, but soon discovered that the morning session was overkill which led to a terrible afternoon practice. My lips just were not recovering. I was advised to stop beating my lips to death and slow down things. I was trying to accomplish everything overnight.

Now I practice technical stuff ( long tones, scales, lip slurs, intervals, arpeggios, etc. ) one hour ( horn on the face ) not counting rest time, in the early am. Because I practice so early ( 5 am ) I had to learn to play softly, and suddenly good things began to happen. Before I learned to play softly, I was struggling for a decent G above the staff, and then by playing softly I soon found myself hitting C and very soon playing C.

My afternoon session is anything from 45 to 60 minutes and all I do is play tunes, concentrating on my tone. And this soft playing has increased my endurance greatly.

I realize that what one thing may work for one person does not always work for another. But the above is what is working for me, Steve. Good luck with your journey.

PS: you got yourself a great horn. I played a Conn 28B in the 50s and 60s but never really appreciated what great a horn I had in my hands. I just wish I had never sold it when I quit in 1965. I am playing a Bach TR300H2, their top of the line student horn. It has the same size bore as most pro horns and the valve action is excellent so it will suit me for now, but I will likely try to add a vintage Conn sometime down the road.
_________________
GeorgeB
1960s King Super 20 Silversonic
2016 Manchester Brass Custom
1938-39 Olds Recording
1942 Buescher 400 Bb trumpet
1952 Selmer Paris 21 B
1999 Conn Vintage One B flat trumpet
2020 Getzen 490 Bb
1962 Conn Victor 5A cornet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeB wrote:
steveleblanc wrote:

George, I'm impressed and also hopeful that I can reach those notes sometime in the next 6 months. How often to you usually practice and for how long? I'm trying to do somewhere between an hour to 90 mins a day. ..give or take.

Great to hear you've come that far, that fast!


I started out practicing 2 hours in the early morning and an hour in the afternoon, but soon discovered that the morning session was overkill which led to a terrible afternoon practice. My lips just were not recovering. I was advised to stop beating my lips to death and slow down things. I was trying to accomplish everything overnight.

Now I practice technical stuff ( long tones, scales, lip slurs, intervals, arpeggios, etc. ) one hour ( horn on the face ) not counting rest time, in the early am. Because I practice so early ( 5 am ) I had to learn to play softly, and suddenly good things began to happen. Before I learned to play softly, I was struggling for a decent G above the staff, and then by playing softly I soon found myself hitting C and very soon playing C.

My afternoon session is anything from 45 to 60 minutes and all I do is play tunes, concentrating on my tone. And this soft playing has increased my endurance greatly.

I realize that what one thing may work for one person does not always work for another. But the above is what is working for me, Steve. Good luck with your journey.

PS: you got yourself a great horn. I played a Conn 28B in the 50s and 60s but never really appreciated what great a horn I had in my hands. I just wish I had never sold it when I quit in 1965. I am playing a Bach TR300H2, their top of the line student horn. It has the same size bore as most pro horns and the valve action is excellent so it will suit me for now, but I will likely try to add a vintage Conn sometime down the road.



Great info George! I stop when I start getting sloppy I realize my chops need a break. I'll break for 5 to 10 minutes sometimes, maybe look for another candidate tune in the Real Book, or some such activity, then start again.

Mixing up the practice routine and documenting my activity helps keeping me motivated. It's especially fun when all of a sudden I realize I'm easily hitting a note or playing a riff I had difficulty with the day or week before.

I'm a bit seasonal too. Right now in the good weather I've got lots of other activities going on. My garden and lawn care, the gym, motorcycle rides, other family activities. Come winter this will slow down a little. I might get out and do some skiing, but after tending to the woodstoves I'll have many indoor hours to practice more.

The Conn was just a lucky find. I had been searching for a Conn like the one I had in HS back in the '64 time frame, but I don't know what model it was. It might have been a 28B or something from that vintage. I know it was more than a student rental, wish I had kept it.. Anyway, when I came across this 6B, it looked pretty rough, but I knew enough to know it might have some value. Luckily with some pointers I got here I got it down to Osmun and they sprinkled magic dust on it. I'll definitely be expanding my quiver as I progress. I think my next horn is going to be bought off the shelf from Osmun, but not new. They have some really nice pre-owned inventory there as they are constantly dealing with the pros they take in trade.

Like my Dad always said though.. "The glove doesn't make the baseball player."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
GeorgeB
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 20 Apr 2016
Posts: 1063
Location: New Glasgow, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see anything wrong with the way you are practicing, Steve. Just be careful not to beat up your lips as I was doing in the beginning of my comeback.
I lost my wife 4 1/2 years ago after 56 years together, so those first two years almost destroyed me. Even though I was adjusting during the following two years, I realized I needed purpose and challenge in my everyday life. Many times I looked at an old Varsity student horn in my closet ( the one I learned to play on at the age of 16 ) and thought about taking it up again, but for one reason or another I didn't do it. Then a couple of musician friends from church convinced me to play again and on March 8th, the fourth anniversary of my wife's passing, I dug that old Varsity out of the closet, managed to get the valves working well enough to finger and blew all of 3 notes, which is pretty much all I blew the first few days, slowly adding until I was playing low C to third space C. After 4 weeks I realized that the Varsity with its sticky valves was holding me back, so I bought the new Bach.

Now 5 months later I have amazed myself at my progress. But most importantly, Steve, through the rough times and the good, playing the trumpet has become my salvation and I have no regrets about taking it up again.
_________________
GeorgeB
1960s King Super 20 Silversonic
2016 Manchester Brass Custom
1938-39 Olds Recording
1942 Buescher 400 Bb trumpet
1952 Selmer Paris 21 B
1999 Conn Vintage One B flat trumpet
2020 Getzen 490 Bb
1962 Conn Victor 5A cornet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
steveleblanc
Regular Member


Joined: 23 Feb 2013
Posts: 50
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeB wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with the way you are practicing, Steve. Just be careful not to beat up your lips as I was doing in the beginning of my comeback.
I lost my wife 4 1/2 years ago after 56 years together, so those first two years almost destroyed me. Even though I was adjusting during the following two years, I realized I needed purpose and challenge in my everyday life. Many times I looked at an old Varsity student horn in my closet ( the one I learned to play on at the age of 16 ) and thought about taking it up again, but for one reason or another I didn't do it. Then a couple of musician friends from church convinced me to play again and on March 8th, the fourth anniversary of my wife's passing, I dug that old Varsity out of the closet, managed to get the valves working well enough to finger and blew all of 3 notes, which is pretty much all I blew the first few days, slowly adding until I was playing low C to third space C. After 4 weeks I realized that the Varsity with its sticky valves was holding me back, so I bought the new Bach.

Now 5 months later I have amazed myself at my progress. But most importantly, Steve, through the rough times and the good, playing the trumpet has become my salvation and I have no regrets about taking it up again.


Thanks for sharing that George. I'm looking forward to following your progress, as well as others on here who are all so helpful.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Grits Burgh
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 04 Oct 2015
Posts: 805
Location: South Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, thanks for the pics of the horn. Now you have me lusting to get something for Osmun Music to fix up for me.
_________________
Bach Stradivarius 37 (1971)
Schilke HC 1
Getzen 3810 C Cornet
King Master Bb Cornet (1945)
B&S 3145 Challenger I Series Flugelhorn
Life is short; buy every horn you want and die happy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
James Becker
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 2827
Location: Littleton, MA

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grits Burgh wrote:
Also, thanks for the pics of the horn. Now you have me lusting to get something for Osmun Music to fix up for me.


Hello Grits Burgh, We'd be happy to take on your repairs, just let us know what you'd like done.

For routine same day services we've made booking your appointment easy online here: https://osmunmusic.fullslate.com/

We look forward to serving you!
_________________
James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
77 Powdermill Road Rt.62
Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com

Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store https://www.ups.com/dropoff?loc=en_US
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Comeback Players All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group