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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:25 pm Post subject: Maynard's Holy Grail 1950's Mouthpiece |
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So far I have:
Lynn Nicholson's Monette Prana (my lead piece)
Roger Ingram's Pickett made Reproduction (my lead piece)
Patrick's MF 1 (old configuration)
Greg Black's MF Giardinelli Vintage
Legend's MF HG
Any other pieces out there based off the MF Holy Grail piece ? This is actually my lead piece (corrected from an earlier post). _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana Resonance LT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece
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ljazztrm Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Dec 2001 Posts: 2681 Location: Queens and upstate, NY
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Stomvi! The GH and the GHM. The GH is .600 diameter.. a very, very nice piece.. the GHM is bigger..but I don't know if it goes all the way to .623.. maybe so. Best, Lex _________________ Mpcs: Jim New-Manley Jazz1/Jazz2/Jazz4/Lead3. Legends MF1. Reeves 39EX/HV. Frost 39MVD. Flugel: Jim NewMF3. Jim New-Manley F1+F2. Pickett MF. Reeves HF.
Trumpets: THE LYNNZHORN!!/Stomvi Forte pocket
Flugel: Manchester Brass Pro Model
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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ljazztrm Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:20 am Post subject: |
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I think the Stomvi GH is a copy of the GR - with some of their own modifications. _________________ Mpcs: Jim New-Manley Jazz1/Jazz2/Jazz4/Lead3. Legends MF1. Reeves 39EX/HV. Frost 39MVD. Flugel: Jim NewMF3. Jim New-Manley F1+F2. Pickett MF. Reeves HF.
Trumpets: THE LYNNZHORN!!/Stomvi Forte pocket
Flugel: Manchester Brass Pro Model
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Martinharris Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Should I get the Patrick MF (which has a 30 throat) if I want to learn the MF protocol? I don't know if the tight throat would get in the way of the protocol learning because lynn's throat is wayyy bigger. |
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trumpet.sanity Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Martinharris wrote: | Should I get the Patrick MF (which has a 30 throat) if I want to learn the MF protocol? I don't know if the tight throat would get in the way of the protocol learning because lynn's throat is wayyy bigger. |
I wouldn't think the throats size would effect any teaching discipline. Further I don't think any mouthpiece would matter, would it?
However, if you get a piece with a tight hole, you can always open it. You can't go the other way!! |
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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9830 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Maynard's Holy Grail 1950's Mouthpiece |
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RussellDDixon wrote: | So far I have:
Lynn Nicholson's Monette Prana
Roger Ingram's Pickett made Reproduction
Patrick's MF 1 (old configuration)
Greg Black's MF Giardinelli Vintage
Legend's MF HG
Any other pieces out there based off the MF Holy Grail piece ? Just accumulating for fun . |
http://www.hoardersanonymous.org/ |
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Yamaha Guy ...
I have tried several times to get a Groovin High Mouthpiece from McMillion and GR with absolutely no success so I am done pursuing anything from that Company. _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana Resonance LT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece
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MTBDude Regular Member
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trumpet.sanity Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Those pieces all have such deep cups
I also read he had throats sizes from 19 down to 14s at one point. Crazy!! |
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trumpet.sanity Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Maynard's Holy Grail 1950's Mouthpiece |
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John Mohan wrote: | RussellDDixon wrote: | So far I have:
Lynn Nicholson's Monette Prana
Roger Ingram's Pickett made Reproduction
Patrick's MF 1 (old configuration)
Greg Black's MF Giardinelli Vintage
Legend's MF HG
Any other pieces out there based off the MF Holy Grail piece ? Just accumulating for fun . |
http://www.hoardersanonymous.org/ |
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B. Scriver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Rusty,
We have 19 versions of the Groovin' High on file as well as the original and need to figure out what you want.
I believe we were talking about making a version for you that you would actually play as opposed to just collect.
You are still on our list if you just want the original design to collect. If you want a personalized version, that would take some time but it can be done.
Brian Scriver
www.grmouthpieces.com |
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Just ordered this mouthpiece. So far, I am heavily favoring the Monette Prana Lynn Nicholson piece with a 23 throat and the Ingram / Pickett Reproduction which is also an exact copy of the original. The Ingram reproduction piece has more resistance than the Monette Prana which is very open. _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana Resonance LT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece |
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Maynard's Holy Grail 1950's Mouthpiece |
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John Mohan wrote: | RussellDDixon wrote: | So far I have:
Lynn Nicholson's Monette Prana
Roger Ingram's Pickett made Reproduction
Patrick's MF 1 (old configuration)
Greg Black's MF Giardinelli Vintage
Legend's MF HG
Any other pieces out there based off the MF Holy Grail piece ? Just accumulating for fun . |
http://www.hoardersanonymous.org/ |
Amusing since you own numerous Arturo 3C configurations ... correct ? _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana Resonance LT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece |
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:53 am Post subject: |
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To correct my first post ... this is the mouthpiece that I actually play for my range studies etc. (high G to double C). As many others do ... I am collecting other configurations of this mouthpiece as I am a firm believer in trying out equipment.
So far, Ingram's exact Pickett made reproduction mouthpiece and the Monette Prana Lynn Nicholson piece are the two that I favor with the Ingram reproduction being a copy of the actual mouthpiece that MF gifted to Roger. _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana Resonance LT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece |
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trumpetplanet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Martinharris wrote: | Should I get the Patrick MF (which has a 30 throat) if I want to learn the MF protocol? I don't know if the tight throat would get in the way of the protocol learning because lynn's throat is wayyy bigger. |
If it's your first MF-style mouthpiece then it doesn't matter which one you get. I have the Warburton one, which I use as my lead piece at the moment.
Have you considered the X-piece and reversible rim? _________________ UK-based professional trumpeter.
Proponent of the Superchops/TCE.
https://neotericbrass.com/
https://trumpetpla.net/
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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What, no Jet-Tone? _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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RussellDDixon Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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cheiden wrote: | What, no Jet-Tone? |
No Jet Tone with the 1950's Calicchio piece. _________________ Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana Resonance LT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece |
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razeontherock Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Maynard's Holy Grail 1950's Mouthpiece |
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RussellDDixon wrote: | John Mohan wrote: | RussellDDixon wrote: | So far I have:
Lynn Nicholson's Monette Prana
Roger Ingram's Pickett made Reproduction
Patrick's MF 1 (old configuration)
Greg Black's MF Giardinelli Vintage
Legend's MF HG
Any other pieces out there based off the MF Holy Grail piece ? Just accumulating for fun . |
http://www.hoardersanonymous.org/ |
Amusing since you own numerous Arturo 3C configurations ... correct ? |
He also bought one of the Bell pieces Maynard supposedly played. |
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Martinharris Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:48 am Post subject: |
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A friend of mine said that the warburton MF is too deep and therefore shouldn't be used for the protocol though. |
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