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improver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:00 am Post subject: Adams A4 valve questions? |
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I've just acquired an A4 that plays great. The valves have some plating wear. How long can I expect these valves to last and what kind of valves are they ? Thx |
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Pete Heavyweight Member
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austincustombrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I am almost certain that is not valve wear but just a chemical reaction from the bronze block to the stainless valve. Purchase some Wright's copper cream and apply lightly to the piston rubbing a darker spot. Using a soft cotton or microfiber cloth works best.
After cleaning be sure to wash the valve thoroughly before re-inserting back into the instrument.
Feel free to email us any pics or questions to info@austincustombrass.com
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improver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for your response. Are there stainless steel valves long lasting? It's the finest horn I've played. |
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austincustombrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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improver wrote: | Thank you for your response. Are there stainless steel valves long lasting? It's the finest horn I've played. |
Absolutely. The reason most folks use Monel is that they tend to not wear out "as often" due to neglect. I personally love the feel of the Adams and the Getzen blocks which are both not Monel. The feel of the stainless Adams Blocks are incredible!
Be sure to use a good quality lubricant. I prefer LaTromba T2 on my Adams blocks personally although Hetman and Monster are both great choices.
Best,
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improver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Your opinion on blue juice? Thx for quick responses |
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austincustombrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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improver wrote: | Your opinion on blue juice? Thx for quick responses |
Awful.
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Goby Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Are all adams/bauerfiend valves stainless steel? |
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austincustombrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Goby wrote: | Are all adams/bauerfiend valves stainless steel? |
I do believe so all made at Adams post the purchase of the company yes. I'm not 100% certain that they didn't make some monel pistons in the past for other makers.
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improver Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Can you tell me why blue juice is awful and la tromba 2 is better? Thx I just ordered some. K |
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austincustombrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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improver wrote: | Can you tell me why blue juice is awful and la tromba 2 is better? Thx I just ordered some. K |
A few reasons:
1. It stinks (smells like Kerosene which it basically is)
2. It evaporates super quickly and leaves a coating of wax (basically) on the valves... over the course of time that builds up slowing down valves (ymmv but that is our shop experience cleaning hundreds of horns that have used that on their pistons)
3. Did I mention the smell?
4. It stains EVERYTHING
5. it reeks
There ya go.
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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austincustombrass wrote: | improver wrote: | Can you tell me why blue juice is awful and la tromba 2 is better? Thx I just ordered some. K |
A few reasons:
1. It stinks (smells like Kerosene which it basically is)
2. It evaporates super quickly and leaves a coating of wax (basically) on the valves... over the course of time that builds up slowing down valves (ymmv but that is our shop experience cleaning hundreds of horns that have used that on their pistons)
3. Did I mention the smell?
4. It stains EVERYTHING
5. it reeks
There ya go.
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But Trent, how do you really feel about it?
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!! |
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austincustombrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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dstpt wrote: | austincustombrass wrote: | improver wrote: | Can you tell me why blue juice is awful and la tromba 2 is better? Thx I just ordered some. K |
A few reasons:
1. It stinks (smells like Kerosene which it basically is)
2. It evaporates super quickly and leaves a coating of wax (basically) on the valves... over the course of time that builds up slowing down valves (ymmv but that is our shop experience cleaning hundreds of horns that have used that on their pistons)
3. Did I mention the smell?
4. It stains EVERYTHING
5. it reeks
There ya go.
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But Trent, how do you really feel about it?
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!! |
HA!
Hope you are well, dude!
Kevin definitely keep us updated the progress in the horn. We are always here to help.
Best,
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