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bear30101 Regular Member
Joined: 05 Sep 2015 Posts: 89 Location: Ga.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: Tips |
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Myrup,
I don't have experience with the Silent Brass, but I did have the great pleasure many years ago, of playing next to Gil Rathel for some months. While I do not know his home practice routine, he did extensive pre-show warm up/ practice, with a harmon mute. He is a lead player with power and endurance, extensive range and technique, and extreme accuracy. The extended practice with harmon certainly did him no harm.
IMHO you must absolutely find someplace to play open horn for a few minutes every day. The space should be "live" acoustically. (In a stairwell, gymnasium, or aimed at the inside/outside of a masonry wall.) But the scales, arpeggio, intervals, articulations, tunes and changes you can master in muted practice are endless. _________________ searching |
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chuck in ny Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 3597 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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etc-etc wrote: | You could invite them for a coffee and tell that playing trumpet is the only thing that can stop you from playing trombone, tuba and drums. |
it takes personal fortitude to play trumpet. there is one in every crowd and if you are going to be a trumpet player, you are that unspeakable person. those with better social skills and those who innately fit in well pursue other instruments.
there is no way to easily smooth this over with people. we walk our own walk. to the OP one day you will have a house of your own, don't despair. |
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6184
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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chuck in ny wrote: | it takes personal fortitude to play trumpet. there is one in every crowd and if you are going to be a trumpet player, you are that unspeakable person. those with better social skills and those who innately fit in well pursue other instruments.
there is no way to easily smooth this over with people. we walk our own walk. to the OP one day you will have a house of your own, don't despair. |
Chuck,
Well said! |
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razeontherock Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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If there is something to the glass blower profession as developing the blowing muscles, it might be a good idea for the OP to get large equipment such as Maynard Ferguson played. Very open blowing, so over blowing is not as much of a problem, and it has advantages other than a big powerful sound.
Even so, I would continue with whatever horn and mouthpiece you have, and learn to take it easy; i.e., refine the airstream. And don't limit yourself to a few notes, play the full range! Up as high as you can. |
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trumpetera Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 1210 Location: Gothenburg,Sweden
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:20 am Post subject: |
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With that logic, I would not be able to play the recorder. Or whisper. _________________ Principal trumpet Gothenburg Opera Orchestra
Bach LT 37 Bb (Mr. Findleys old)
Bach Mt Vernon 1957 Bb
Bach NY ML 1943 vintage Bb
Very old YTR-6335
Bach/Malone/Lechner C
Malone-Bach 229 C
H.Ganter Bb
Schagerl Wienna (older model) C
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 7770 Location: Des Moines, IA area
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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You already have the Silent Brass- correct? Use it with a better set of noise cancelling headphones, turn it up to about the volume you feel is correct for the effort you are making and have at it. Over the years I used one quite a bit and also bought 6 or 7 from here and eBay to lend out to my inner city 'hood students who didn't dare practice trumpet in the apartment or the local dealer would do drive-bys at them later. When my college prof student moved back to Japan after a couple years, I gave her one so she could keep up her practice there. She also runs a line in and plays along with Abersold and the like, which is another perk for using it. I've had little issue with them personally or in using them with students so long as they use phones and turn them up. Without the electronics there is usually a problem with either back pressure or overblowing. Good luck. |
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Robert P Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Posts: 2596
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:09 am Post subject: |
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1jazzyalex wrote: | the parks are fine, just put your case out and you'll suck but so to tons of buskers, and you might get lunch money out of it. |
The problem I anticipate with doing this outdoors in a public place is you're inviting the local criminal element who will see a shiny horn not as a musical instrument but as something to steal. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
King Silver Flair
Besson 1000
Bundy
Chinese C
Getzen Eterna Bb/A piccolo
Chinese Rotary Bb/A piccolo
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1jazzyalex Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jun 2016 Posts: 569 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Except, does he live in a high-crime area? I doubt he does. _________________ Yamaha 8335LA with Blessing 3C, 5C, Schilke 11A4A |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 7770 Location: Des Moines, IA area
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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The cold temps in Sweden might be more of a problem for busking than the dirtbags. |
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GRVTrumpet New Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2017 Posts: 5 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:40 am Post subject: |
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For me...I have a silent brass. Not my favorite option. I prefer to use a Harmon mute with tissue stuffed in it. Adds a little resistance but the closest to playing normal that I have been able to find. _________________ Bb: Bach - 190S37 - 50th Anniversary Horn
C: Yamaha Xeno "Chicago" Series - Gen 1
Picc: Shilke P7-4
Eb/D: Schilke E3L |
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HornnOOb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Jun 2010 Posts: 897 Location: East of the Sun & West of the Moon
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I was in your situation for a short time. What I did, is make arrangements to practice at the local college and would also practice at low volume in my apartment with an adjustable cup mute. If you don't have a college close by, go to a community center, recreation hall, Elks. Moose or Masons lodge and see what you can work out. A community theater during non-use hours? You may also be able to join a beginning level band class at your local college or university - without being a student. Often, colleges open their band programs to non-student adults.
As others here have said, there are always opportunities - just think outside the box. Perhaps there is a local music store that offers lessons? And maybe if you took lessons there they might let you practice in their music rooms during off hours? _________________ I rode in on a horse and can't seem to get out of L.A.
Severinsen Destino 3*
1971 Getzen Eterna 900S Severinsen Model
1984 Getzen Eterna 896 Flugelhorn
1951 Olds Special Cornet
Denis Wick 1C Heavytop
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stanton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 726 Location: Skokie, Illinois
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:38 am Post subject: |
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I feel your pain. Since moving into a condo my trumpet practice time has dwindled radically. I have have tried MANY practice mutes. I have an original Silent brass and have played the new model. And the new model is a significant improvement. I also have a Don Maslet practice mute as well as a Best Brass knockoff. The one that provides the least resistance but cuts the volume well is the world famous Renuzit mute. I like it because it is the lightest weight and cheapest of them all.
No practice mute will provide a lot of musical satisfaction, sad to say. But if you need time on the horn and have no place to play open we only have what we have. If you are just starting out on trumpet, you do need to go out into an open area. I don't think playing in your car is ideal because the constricted space has its issues as well. So, as others have mentioned, if weather permits, just go outside somewhere.
Good luck. _________________ Schilke B1, Bach 37, 1969 Getzen Severinsen Eterna
Bach C 229 w Charlie Melk custom work
Getzen Eterna Cornet, Crappy old Yamaha 3valve Eb
Stanton Kramer "Signature" Mouthpiece |
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Jazzalive Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 457 Location: Bay Area
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Hugh Anderson Veteran Member
Joined: 22 Sep 2011 Posts: 398
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Tell us more about this pillow box. It is possible to play extremely softly. Believe it or not. |
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Jazzalive Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 457 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Like I said, I still practice don't late evenings, but it does reduce sound quite a bit. My wife says it reduces volume about 50%. Not perfect, but I can play mp and mf without difficulty. No fear of driving the neighbors, nor her for that matter, crazy. I have tried Yamaha silent mute and a few of the other practice mutes mentioned here. None of them worked for me. I will say this though... playing into the sound box all the time means it takes a few minutes getting used to playing open again when I'm at rehearsal or band practice, or any other time I can play open. I seem so LOUD!!!!
But I get reacclimated pretty quickly. I'd say it's worth the investment and I recommend it to all apartment dwellers. |
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