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kehaulani
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, unless I missed it, there's nothing to compare your clip with.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

razeontherock wrote:
^ ^ Nice sound, Jay!


Thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
But, unless I missed it, there's nothing to compare your clip with.


I may post the clip I originally sent Bri at some point. It was rough, though.

I did say in the post with the link that "I could barely squeak out a high C 2-3 weeks ago."

That is true. Anything above G was a combination of luck and squeaks for me. I never really owned anything higher as a "real" note.

I'm sorry if I have been unclear.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jayson has trying to find his way with a 2 1/2 year safari. This can be so tough with ups and downs. Frustration, being led down the wrong path, questions about everything...horn...face...gap...etc, loss of confidence. Furthermore, public posts and more disappointment. To open up and disclose his journey and challenges is not easy. Takes a person that is willing to suffer in order to make gains.

Jayson has done a good job following through. Jayson is not done, and neither are we guiding and helping him.

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jaysonr
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B. Scriver wrote:
Jayson is not done...


I am done with one thing: playing anything other than GR mouthpieces.

Seriously, I won't derail this post any further, but I will say this -- if you have any questions about my experience, please PM me or shoot me an email (jayson (dot) rowe (at) gmail (dot) com). I will be happy to tell anyone about my experience.

To the original poster:
Put some serious thought into systematically choosing a mouthpiece that works well for you. A good fit at the inner diameter with the right rim contour/alpha-angle, etc., will make everything so much easier.

Take your three mouthpieces and try some leadpipe buzzing. See if any of the three make a breath attack on the leadpipe almost instantly. That's a good indication it's the right one. Then, move on to some low, soft breath attacks, then try some intervals...the weirder the better (just make sure you can hear them--use a piano for help if needed) and see if any of the three make all of this easier.

Once you do, you'll be on the right track to finding the mouthpiece that works best for you.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I see far too often is that a player finds a mouthpiece that they feel they like, and one or two days later, they are discouraged with the mouthpiece and they want to try others. I have seen too many people do this, and get horribly discouraged, to the point of wishing to quit. The truth of the matter for most is that you need to commit to a piece and work with it for a while. All mouthpieces are a compromise. Adding a characteristic in one area means that there are characteristics that are going to be reduced in another area.

The trumpet player should look for the balance of elements, not single characteristics. Too often, a single characteristic works, but the player is looking for a mouthpiece for all genres and styles, and that element they so appreciate is completely inappropriate for their other playing. Too many changes, too much advice about a single area that fails to meet the requirements (or worse, hampers that requirement) in another area, too much money spent on a never-ending safari that never really provides the "real" answer for the player.

I have played the same rim and cup on my orchestral work since 1989. It will likely never change in my lifetime. Other horns I play sometimes require a specific cup/throat/backbore combo to function in the area I use them, but the rim never changes. Balancing the mouthpiece to specific instruments is, of course, important. But that must be a second consideration to the "home base" instrument and mouthpiece that acts as the base instrument for all of your playing. So, finding the balance on the "home" instrument, the same one you play every day first, the one you use as your base of operation, is essential.

The point: the mouthpiece is only one variable. Look at your technique and consistency in developing and maintaining a good warm-up and fundamental regimen that gets your into the same "place" every day, and then, if the shortcomings with equipment are still a concern, then a search is appropriate. No piece of equipment can substitute for putting yourself in the best position by being physically prepared and mentally know where you are on the trumpet.

This does not in any way discount the incredible work of the folks at GR. They offer a service few do, and they are tremendous at their work. But the player should come prepared and knowing their own playing to gain the greatest benefit from their expertise.

All best wishes,

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaysonr wrote:
B. Scriver wrote:
Jayson is not done...


I am done with one thing: playing anything other than GR mouthpieces.

Seriously, I won't derail this post any further, but I will say this -- if you have any questions about my experience, please PM me or shoot me an email (jayson (dot) rowe (at) gmail (dot) com). I will be happy to tell anyone about my experience.

To the original poster:
Put some serious thought into systematically choosing a mouthpiece that works well for you. A good fit at the inner diameter with the right rim contour/alpha-angle, etc., will make everything so much easier.

Take your three mouthpieces and try some leadpipe buzzing. See if any of the three make a breath attack on the leadpipe almost instantly. That's a good indication it's the right one. Then, move on to some low, soft breath attacks, then try some intervals...the weirder the better (just make sure you can hear them--use a piano for help if needed) and see if any of the three make all of this easier.

Once you do, you'll be on the right track to finding the mouthpiece that works best for you.


Thank you! I will try those ideas.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Betelgeuse215 wrote:
jaysonr wrote:
B. Scriver wrote:
Jayson is not done...


I am done with one thing: playing anything other than GR mouthpieces.

Seriously, I won't derail this post any further, but I will say this -- if you have any questions about my experience, please PM me or shoot me an email (jayson (dot) rowe (at) gmail (dot) com). I will be happy to tell anyone about my experience.

To the original poster:
Put some serious thought into systematically choosing a mouthpiece that works well for you. A good fit at the inner diameter with the right rim contour/alpha-angle, etc., will make everything so much easier.

Take your three mouthpieces and try some leadpipe buzzing. See if any of the three make a breath attack on the leadpipe almost instantly. That's a good indication it's the right one. Then, move on to some low, soft breath attacks, then try some intervals...the weirder the better (just make sure you can hear them--use a piano for help if needed) and see if any of the three make all of this easier.

Once you do, you'll be on the right track to finding the mouthpiece that works best for you.


Thank you! I will try those ideas.


I hope it helps. Good luck on your quest!
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Betelgeuse215
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems I have found something that consistently works best between my options. I will be using a 1.5C!
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TanaTrumpeter
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1.5C is a good choice. Glad you found what fits you

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of this might help.


Link


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