Probably never going to see the likes of him again..
Vividly recall a story of a fellow that saw him perform in a church in the late 70's at length..."dancing while he played....did not even 'almost' miss a note."
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:34 am Post subject: A theory I have about Maurice Andre one of a kind playing
My personal opinion is that he is by far the very best trumpet player or maybe merely in a class of his own, at least of our time and I have a theory, or call it a "proof".
(I don't mind being told I'm wrong though):
Some baroque concertos and sonatas that he has recorded (i.e. Tartini concerto, Bach suit in B minor no. 2) other great trumpet soloists did too.
I think his was the better performance by far but that's just my opinion.
However, he has recorded other transcribed baroque pieces that to my modest knowledge have not been played or recorded by anyone else and maybe it's because compared to his version, it would pale:
1. Concerto St. Marc
2. Mozart (not baroque of course) flute/oboe concerto
3. Nicolas Chédeville (attrib. Vivaldi) (on M.A. Edition no. 2)
4. Tersarini
5. Zipoli suite
6. Vivaldi Concerto in Ab
7. Telemann Concerto in Eb major for trumpet, strings and continuo (arr. from Concerto in G major for viola, strings and continuo) (on M.A. Edition no. 2) - a beast of a piece when played on trumpet. In my opinion, for trumpet it's only good for recording, even for M. Andre - a sample: http://www.allmusic.com/performance/4-presto-mq0001888652
8. Concerto C major by Willem De Fesch
9. Telemann E minor (also on Vol. 2)
10. Vivaldi Concerto D major (arr. Jean Thilde) - Andre's opening is absolutely stunning - a staccato from another world. (also on vol. 2) - here it is:
http://ecsmedia.pl/mp3/16405495-m21971397.mp3
And there are other pieces I've only heard him play...
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Good points. I did hear him once in a concert hall around '78 and never forgot it. A church or a hall setting is not really a 'necessity' today with high end audio available. Imo, simple acoustics coupled with his type of playing...is an experience that transported you.
His father was touted locally around his village as very good...and might have been just as good !
Mining was his sole occupation
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:01 am Post subject:
Interestingly his brother Raymond is hardly ever mentioned.
There must be a reason for it but it's a shame nonetheless.
Here are the brothers with Raymond on the right:
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:01 am Post subject:
Sustained note wrote:
Interestingly his brother Raymond is hardly ever mentioned.
There must be a reason for it but it's a shame nonetheless.
Here are the brothers with Raymond on the right:
Raymond died in an accident. He was in the mountain rescue and died undertaking a rescue on a mountain. I believe that is correct. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
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Interestingly his brother Raymond is hardly ever mentioned.
There must be a reason for it but it's a shame nonetheless.
Here are the brothers with Raymond on the right:
Raymond died in an accident. He was in the mountain rescue and died undertaking a rescue on a mountain. I believe that is correct.
I think his son, Lionel died in the mountains! Raymond is/was a retired trumpet professor! _________________ Van Laar OIRAM light I
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:48 am Post subject:
Hi Gordon,
The one who died was not Raymond (Maurice's brother) but Lionel André, the older son of Maurice André, while trying to rescue people around 1989 near the Montblanc mountain - he was a mountain guide.
A music school in France was named after him:
http://musiquelqb.blogspot.co.il/
nini from Belgium has posted about it here on TH in 2010. _________________ Michael Greenberg
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:57 am Post subject:
Sustained note wrote:
Hi Gordon,
The one who died was not Raymond (Maurice's brother) but Nicolas André, the older son of Maurice André, while trying to rescue people around 1989 near the Montblanc mountain - he was a mountain guide.
A music school in France was named after him:
http://musiquelqb.blogspot.co.il/
nini from Belgium has posted about it here on TH in 2010.
Nicolas is very much alive. He is a trumpet player in a Spanish orchestra I believe, we have mutual friends on Facebook and his stuff comes up on my timeline sometimes. He is younger than me. I think the older son was Lionel. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:03 am Post subject:
Nicolas is currently listed as Professor at the Conservatory of Valencia, and principal trumpet of the Orchestra of the Pamplona Opera. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:45 am Post subject: Re: A theory I have about Maurice Andre one of a kind playin
Sustained note wrote:
My personal opinion is that he is by far the very best trumpet player or maybe merely in a class of his own, at least of our time and I have a theory, or call it a "proof".
(I don't mind being told I'm wrong though):
Some baroque concertos and sonatas that he has recorded (i.e. Tartini concerto, Bach suit in B minor no. 2) other great trumpet soloists did too.
I think his was the better performance by far but that's just my opinion.
However, he has recorded other transcribed baroque pieces that to my modest knowledge have not been played or recorded by anyone else and maybe it's because compared to his version, it would pale:
1. Concerto St. Marc
2. Mozart (not baroque of course) flute/oboe concerto
3. Nicolas Chédeville (attrib. Vivaldi) (on M.A. Edition no. 2)
4. Tersarini
5. Zipoli suite
6. Vivaldi Concerto in Ab
7. Telemann Concerto in Eb major for trumpet, strings and continuo (arr. from Concerto in G major for viola, strings and continuo) (on M.A. Edition no. 2) - a beast of a piece when played on trumpet. In my opinion, for trumpet it's only good for recording, even for M. Andre - a sample: http://www.allmusic.com/performance/4-presto-mq0001888652
8. Concerto C major by Willem De Fesch
9. Telemann E minor (also on Vol. 2)
10. Vivaldi Concerto D major (arr. Jean Thilde) - Andre's opening is absolutely stunning - a staccato from another world. (also on vol. 2) - here it is:
http://ecsmedia.pl/mp3/16405495-m21971397.mp3
And there are other pieces I've only heard him play...
Check out Rolf Smedvig's Bach Suite #2. Do a comparative listen. I don't disagree with your conclusion but you might be surprised.
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:46 am Post subject:
Quote:
Check out Rolf Smedvig's Bach Suite #2. Do a comparative listen. I don't disagree with your conclusion but you might be surprised.
Hi mhenrikse,
You are right and I have heard Rolf Smedvig's (RIP) Bach Suite #2.
He was a great trumpet player. I do think that Andre's rendition of it was...what can I say, for me, Andre's Bach Suite #2 was the best and a one of a kind masterpiece of a trumpet rendition of this. _________________ Michael Greenberg
Probably never going to see the likes of him again..
Vividly recall a story of a fellow that saw him perform in a church in the late 70's at length..."dancing while he played....did not even 'almost' miss a note."
Two tidbits from Maurice Andre concerts. Sometime around 1970, I saw him in recital in Los Angeles; it was a relatively small crowd with, as I recall, the LA Phil section in attendance, as well as other professionals. After Andre played there was a question and answer session. The one question that stuck in my mind was "do you get nervous". He said that he does but "gets used to it" after the first few recitals of the tour.
The other is when he played a couple concertos with the Boston Symphony in 1978 or 1979. On the second movement of the Hummel he barely chipped a note. He subsequently pantomimed "looking at his horn" and there was a soft chuckle from the Symphony Hall audience. He is the only trumpet player I know who could pull that off.
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