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Robert P
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 Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:17 pm Post subject: Got my first child-resistant valve oil bottles! |
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I've got basically a lifetime supply of Blue Juice so haven't bought any valve oil for a while but wanted to try Hetman. Recently got bottles of Hetman 1,2 & 3 to try out - they've got the push-n-twist caps.
Is this a gov't mandate? I just looked at eBay, the pics of Blue Juice I see still look like they have the non-childproof caps.
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I just bought a bottle of Hetman a few weeks ago and yeah, it's the same, child-proof cap.
But it's easy to understand, that stuff's pretty tempting!
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ALL of the Hetmans I've bought in the last six months have those child resistant caps. I'm fine with child safety devices, except in the case of these, they don't work correctly! Sure, the operation is simple, push down and turn. But the ones I have bought quickly degenerate to where you have to push them down with gorilla-like force to get them to open, one I had to eventually pry off with a screwdriver.
Hey Hetmans, your oil is great, but fix these damn things!
Brad
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Hi, yes, I hate the childproof caps and they deteriorate too darn fast. I have a couple of empty Al Cass bottles. I washed them out with hot water, let them dry out and I simply pour the Hetman's into the Al Cass bottle, mark it Het #2 with a Sharpie, problem solved.
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| falado wrote: | Hi, yes, I hate the childproof caps and they deteriorate too darn fast. I have a couple of empty Al Cass bottles. I washed them out with hot water, let them dry out and I simply pour the Hetman's into the Al Cass bottle, mark it Het #2 with a Sharpie, problem solved.
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Good idea, Hetmans really needs to correct those kid-resistant bottles their oil now comes in.
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I removed the child ring from my bottle of oil.
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| I let my 2 year old use them while he is teething, and wait till it's broken, then they work just fine. |
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Louise Finch
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Hi
I have no idea about the Hetman ones but the supposedly child proof Yamaha bottles are so ineffective that I can open them one handed, and I'm less good at opening bottles than my eight year old with learning difficulties, and have to get her to small bottles of Ribena designed to be put in kids lunch boxes.
All the best
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| Just screw your old caps onto the new bottles. Child proof means YOU learn to keep dangerous things out of their reach... Kids can figure out anything if left alone with it for a while. Usually such attempts at deterring "Darwin" only hassle certain adult types. |
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| Craig Swartz wrote: | | Usually such attempts at deterring "Darwin" only hassle certain adult types. |
I find revisionist history of Darwin fascinating. I wish people would look up the full, original title of is most famous book. Maybe they wouldn't quote him so much. |
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| Benge.nut wrote: | | Craig Swartz wrote: | | Usually such attempts at deterring "Darwin" only hassle certain adult types. |
I find revisionist history of Darwin fascinating. I wish people would look up the full, original title of is most famous book. Maybe they wouldn't quote him so much. |
Didn't realize I was quoting Darwin, only using his name iin the "Darwin Awards" sense for those who cannot/will not take care of themselves or their own.
I've never bought in to the entire evolution doctrine. If it was true, how come all the monkeys haven't evolved into humans yet, or why are there still amphibians or marsupials at all? Adaption, certainly, evolution from amoeba to human? Not so sure. If anything, humans seem to be devolving, headed back into the ooze. And that's 99% politics based. |
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| Benge.nut wrote: | | Craig Swartz wrote: | | Usually such attempts at deterring "Darwin" only hassle certain adult types. |
I find revisionist history of Darwin fascinating. I wish people would look up the full, original title of is most famous book. Maybe they wouldn't quote him so much. |
Didn't he posit something like survival of the fattest which we Americans are bent on proving? |
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Benge.nut
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People pick and choose how to teach history. For those that didn't look it up. Here are the titles of Darwin's famous book, interesting how the full title has been white-washed as time has passed.
On the Origin of Species (or more completely, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life) |
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| Benge.nut wrote: | People pick and choose how to teach history. For those that didn't look it up. Here are the titles of Darwin's famous book, interesting how the full title has been white-washed as time has passed.
On the Origin of Species (or more completely, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life) |
I was exposed to this in the science classes, not history.
But at the end of the day I really don't think much about it nor care if others get all the details correct when they make a small reference that includes his name. YMMV.  |
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| LittleRusty wrote: | | Benge.nut wrote: | People pick and choose how to teach history. For those that didn't look it up. Here are the titles of Darwin's famous book, interesting how the full title has been white-washed as time has passed.
On the Origin of Species (or more completely, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life) |
I was exposed to this in the science classes, not history.
But at the end of the day I really don't think much about it nor care if others get all the details correct when they make a small reference that includes his name. YMMV. |
Uh...this.😐
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Got my first child-resistant valve oil bottles! |
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| Robert P wrote: | I've got basically a lifetime supply of Blue Juice so haven't bought any valve oil for a while but wanted to try Hetman. Recently got bottles of Hetman 1,2 & 3 to try out - they've got the push-n-twist caps.
Is this a gov't mandate? I just looked at eBay, the pics of Blue Juice I see still look like they have the non-childproof caps. |
Yeah, the EU is requiring it now, so everybody is starting to shift over. We'll be doing it pretty soon too. But you guys are right, it's tough to find a decent bottle that isn't a PITA.
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I don't know about all of you, but I am saving my empty valve oil bottles to refill.
Monster Oil kindly sent me a sample of their product to try (I can't wait to get started on my evaluation of it); it came in a "vintage" Monster Oil bottle. Hmmm, I wonder how much it will sell for in the marketplace in about a year or two - the "1946, Large Bore, Martin Committee" of valve oil bottles? 
Oh, and don't get me started on government meddling. When the government starts telling us what valve oil bottles we must all use, it is time for a revolution. Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave.
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| Grits Burgh wrote: | I don't know about you all of you, but I am saving my empty valve oil bottles to refill.
Monster Oil kindly sent me a sample of their product to try (I can't wait to get started on my evaluation of it); it came in a "vintage" Monster Oil bottle. Hmmm, I wonder how much it will sell for in the marketplace in about a year or two - the "1946, Large Bore, Martin Committee" of valve oil bottles?
Oh, and don't get me started on government meddling. When the government starts telling us what valve oil bottles we must all use, it is time for a revolution. Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave.
Regards,
Grits |
I agree, it's just more of the government-as-big-brother. There are government safety regulations that are helpful, but like much of what the government does, it reaches a point of absurdity.
I don't know why specifically the Hetmans bottles don't work, but they DON'T; they reach a point where you can't get the damn cap off at all. As much as I like Hetmans, it's almost enough (almost) to make me change oils, they really need to correct it. Sure, I can rinse out some older bottles and put the Hetmans in there, but why should we need to do that?
Brad
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Got my first child-resistant valve oil bottles! |
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| Monster Oil wrote: | | Yeah, the EU is requiring it now, so everybody is starting to shift over. We'll be doing it pretty soon too. But you guys are right, it's tough to find a decent bottle that isn't a PITA. |
If the design used on the Yamaha valve oil bottle would satisfy the regulators, then that would be my vote for the new Monster Oil bottles. Easy to use, not a PITA, IMO.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Got my first child-resistant valve oil bottles! |
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| dstdenis wrote: | | Monster Oil wrote: | | Yeah, the EU is requiring it now, so everybody is starting to shift over. We'll be doing it pretty soon too. But you guys are right, it's tough to find a decent bottle that isn't a PITA. |
If the design used on the Yamaha valve oil bottle would satisfy the regulators, then that would be my vote for the new Monster Oil bottles. Easy to use, not a PITA, IMO.
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I've seen those, they work OK. I don't really have a problem with the Hetman products having a child resistant cap, but theirs "degenerates" to where it will not open at all, I've had to pry two of them off with a screwdriver.
Hey, in the grand scheme of things this is certainly not major, but it is a PITA.
Brad
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