Can't Be an "Original Olds Super Recording"

aardvark

I've never seen one like this.......can this be a unique re-creation or what?

Not sure if I copied the address correctly....if not...just get on the "bay" and look for 1946 Olds Super Recording.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272658201624?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

TheLawTalkingGuy · Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 6:13 am Post subject:

Clay beat you by 4 minutes

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aardvark · Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 6:39 am Post subject:

Have you seen the price this is heading to?....I'd love to "toot" on this thing for about 5 minutes....would be interesting.

yourbrass · Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 6:41 pm Post subject:

Finger hook on the leadpipe is missing. And it's had a lot of "repair work" done to it, leaving solder all over the place. Valves are very worn, will need refitting to reveal its true potential. Sorta like a "contractor's special."

It is a desirable model, just needs lots of work.
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yourbrass · Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:07 pm Post subject:

36 minutes to go and the trumpet is bid at $1,632.00 US! That is one expensive project horn. I've been told that some Super Recordings are rare, in terms of the configuration. Maybe this is one of them? Or maybe it's the Gold Rush.
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yourbrass · Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:17 pm Post subject:

I see why this is attracting attention.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272658201624?ul_noapp=true

This is an old arrangement, with the tuning slide/3rd slide swapped over, as was common in the old days. Well, maybe it's worth it to some collector.
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yourbrass · Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject:

$2,500 + $45 shipping, final price at auction. So, with a good overhaul and valve refitting, you're talking at least $4k.

A mere bag of shells.
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Justin_Smith · Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 12:24 pm Post subject:

That's a very cool horn.
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Evinerate · Veteran Member Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Posts: 154

This SR is NOT original, a mere mesh of different parts from other olds horns, the only thing original is the valve block and the bell.

This went for 2500 plus shipping. Wow.

yourbrass · Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:34 pm Post subject:

It's interesting that the old design of this trumpet was returned to by Olds before they went out of business in the 1970's. The "Pinto" model, which was one of the first modular trumpets, had the swapped-over tuning-3rd slide arrangement. I think there may have been another late model that followed the same pattern.
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TheBrassBandMajor · Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject:

On the other site, was a heavy discussion by an Olds expert, he said it was a franken-horn with multiple bits of parts from Olds Super Recording, Ambassador, Super and etc.

Rip the buyer......
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yourbrass · Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:17 am Post subject:

Dunno, ebay sales are untrustworthy, however, the tuning slide/ 3rd slide arrangement is rare for an Olds. Those ports can't just have tubing switched to achieve that. And there HAS been lots of sloppy solder work done all over the horn.

This sort of thing is interesting to look at, but I'd have to have a lot of confidence in the seller before plunking down even half the sales price. I like to see them come out of estate sales with no work done to them - that's a lot harder to find.
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razeontherock · Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:05 am Post subject:

Offset valves and 3rd valve trigger scream at me that not even the valve block is Super Recording. Recording, not that there's anything wrong with that. Except malicious deception on the part of the seller. Or ignorance? Either way the sales price constitutes unjust enrichment, a legal concept recognized by our Courts. I would hope E-Bay's guarantees would cover this.

None of that necessarily makes it a bad horn, but it has no collector's value. It's a SR bell, best used as a replacement part for a SR that needs it. Who knows what it has for a leadpipe?