Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:32 pm Post subject: Maynard's Flugelhorns
Just curious, what brand and model flugelhorns did Maynard play from the 80's on. I assume he played Holton but I can't find out any info.
Thanks,
Dan _________________ Callet Jazz Gen. II www.callet.com
Getzen Eterna Bobby Herriot Model
MF Holton LT-302
MF Holton LT-306
MF Holton ST-307
Cheap Flugel
www.danburnham.com
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Maynard's Flugelhorns
burnhamd wrote:
Just curious, what brand and model flugelhorns did Maynard play from the 80's on. I assume he played Holton but I can't find out any info.
Thanks,
Dan
He played Courtois flugelhorns from what I saw. Big bore four vale horns when I met him and hung out a few times in the 80s and 90s
And I might add, I HATED Maynard's flugelhorn sound, and I don't blame it on Courtois horns. I don't know if it was mouthpiece selection or what the issue was but the sound was mostly awful.
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:05 pm Post subject: Thanks
Thanks for the info,
Dan _________________ Callet Jazz Gen. II www.callet.com
Getzen Eterna Bobby Herriot Model
MF Holton LT-302
MF Holton LT-306
MF Holton ST-307
Cheap Flugel
www.danburnham.com
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks
burnhamd wrote:
Thanks for the info,
Dan
Sure thing.
And even though I never liked his flugelhorn stuff, every show I saw were life changing moments for me, and Maynard is still one of my favorite players and he had enormous influences on my playing and career choices.
Maynard's ballads from the 50s and 60s sounded better than most guys in flugel I've ever heard by the way....
I agree about Maynard's fluglehorn sound but only in his later years. I loved his sound on MF Horn 1&3. Ballad For Max, The Valachi Papers and the first stanza of Round Midnight are particular favorites. His sound on trumpet and flugle changed a lot in later years. I suspect it was mouthpiece related as someone pointed out.
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9830 Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 6:10 pm Post subject:
He played either a LeBlanc or a Holton Flugelhorn when I saw him in concert in the mid '70's through early '80s. I think it was a LeBlanc horn. I think he sounded great on Flugel at least at that time.
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 7:39 pm Post subject: Thanks Guys
Guys,
Thanks for the info and input,
Dan _________________ Callet Jazz Gen. II www.callet.com
Getzen Eterna Bobby Herriot Model
MF Holton LT-302
MF Holton LT-306
MF Holton ST-307
Cheap Flugel
www.danburnham.com
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:48 am Post subject:
While I wouldn't say Maynard sounds 'awful' in that clip, I would say that's a good example of how not to blow a flugel. He shows what happens when you blow it as though it were a trumpet; the sound isn't much different from trumpet, and you force every intonation quirk into its worst possible position.
Pretty sure the two trumpets each have a different mpc., and he probably adjusted the tuning slides ahead of time. First time I've ever seen someone else do that.
When I saw Chuck Mangione give a clinic to a bunch of HS kids he said you can't blow a FL the way you can a trumpet, you have to woo it like a woman. This clip shows the Courtois can take it and not back up!
Yeah, Maynard sounds as delicate as a bulldozer on flugelhorn. I've never really heard an example of him playing flugelhorn with much finesse and you're right, he sounds more like a trumpet than a flug.
Those Courtois are larger bore horns as well, if memory serves. Whatever the combination of variables, MF sounds like a nasally trumpet on his flugel recordings. Not a sound I'd go after.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:13 am Post subject: Maynard flugelhorn
I don't have alot of tracks of him playing flugelhorn. I still preferred the buttery sound of Mangione but I wouldn't have seen Maynard to know what flugel he played because I would have been genuflecting face down on the floor. Took a couple high school kids to see him at a h.s. concert in southern minnesota. We took front row seats and got to talk a while with Stan Mark before the concert.
We were all blown away. His sidemen were so awesome. Somewhere I still have some 33 rpm discs of him playing dance standards and stuff. The one and only MF!
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum