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ThatOneSlime
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject: Yamaha YFH-2310 Flugelhorn Reply with quote

Is this a good horn? I have a chance to buy one before I go to college for a very good price, is it worth the money? Is it still playable and comparable to a pro horn without the slide triggers?
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha YFH-2310 Flugelhorn Reply with quote

ThatOneSlime wrote:
Is this a good horn? I have a chance to buy one before I go to college for a very good price, is it worth the money? Is it still playable and comparable to a pro horn without the slide triggers?

What price are you paying for this horn? They can sometimes be found used in the $400-600 range and are hard to beat for the price. I know more than a few pros who actually prefer this horn over the pro models. It's a shame it doesn't have a third slide trigger but they are quality horns for the price.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you get your panties all in a wad... play the horn with a tuner and you will probably see that those low D's are perfectly fine without one.

I have a Yamaha 731, and it doesn't have a trigger. Plays low D's right on the money. Plus.. with the funnel and huge bell you can lip those low notes anywhere you want them.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha YFH-2310 Flugelhorn Reply with quote

ThatOneSlime wrote:
Is this a good horn? I have a chance to buy one before I go to college for a very good price, is it worth the money? Is it still playable and comparable to a pro horn without the slide triggers?

trompette229 wrote:
What price are you paying for this horn? They can sometimes be found used in the $400-600 range and are hard to beat for the price. I know more than a few pros who actually prefer this horn over the pro models. It's a shame it doesn't have a third slide trigger but they are quality horns for the price.

With horizontal rather than vertical valve slides, it's got a ring on the third slide. It doesn't need a trigger to adjust pitch.

You probably don't have triggers on your Bach Strad/Yamaha Xeno or whatever your trumpet is. The trigger on most flugels due to the slides being vertical, you can't just put a ring on it. Besides, as was mentioned above, there's a decent chance on a flugel, you won't even need anything. I really don't on my 731.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it one you would recommend buying as a music major for college?
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatOneSlime wrote:
Is it one you would recommend buying as a music major for college?


Any decent flugel - and this certainly is a decent one - is fine for a music major in college.

When I was in college, only 2 people owned piccolos, 2 people owned C trumpets, and one (me) owned an Eb. No one owned a flugel. The college owned several C's, a pair of piccolos, and a flugel.

Guess times have changed.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiarby wrote:
Before you get your panties all in a wad... play the horn with a tuner and you will probably see that those low D's are perfectly fine without one.

I have a Yamaha 731, and it doesn't have a trigger. Plays low D's right on the money. Plus.. with the funnel and huge bell you can lip those low notes anywhere you want them.

If the low D is in tune then the Eb or C# will not be. But lipping up or down can suffice for some. There is a Buescher aficionado on here who is a big advocate of lipping over slides.

But if it has slides, then I don't see a problem. If you think about it a trigger requires you to pull to extend the slide, but your Bb will probably need you to push. So there might be an adjustment for you if you have triggers.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha YFH-2310 Flugelhorn Reply with quote

[quote="Crazy Finn"][
With horizontal rather than vertical valve slides, it's got a ring on the third slide. It doesn't need a trigger to adjust pitch.

The 2310 doesn't have a ring for third valve adjustment. A tech could add one at some expense but they have no adjustment
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are looking for a Flugel to get you by as a doubler throughout college, what about looking at an ACB Doubler from Austin Brass?
A new horn that has been tweeked by Trent with an adjusted leadpipe.

Then you have a new instrument, with a 3rd valve trigger. All less than $600

What really are you using the Flugel for? A few lines in Jazz Band, maybe a solo or combo situation? But in reality probably for a low percentage of time in comparison to your trumpet...

IMO though I haven't compared the 2 side by side, but remembering how the 2 play, you'll be happier with a Doubler than with a student model Yamaha.


Have you communicated with the studio Prof at your college? He/She may have an opinion on the subject!
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This student flugel is a surprisingly good player and sounds pretty good too. But it doesn't have the depth of sound of the pro models. I wouldn't recommend it for a serious player if it was possible to score a pro model.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own a lot of trumpets and cornets, but only one flugel. The 2310S works just fine for me, but then again, I don't play any classical repertoire, just need a doubler for a bunch of stuff.

Mine works great for the times when I have to cover the tenor sax part, so we get a decent blend harmonically.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a doubler the Thomann FH 600 is more than adequate. I gigged the GS model (silver plated) for about 5 years before upgrading. The lacquered model is €219 and the silver is €325. The dollar does really well against the euro right now, I'd definitely consider one. I know a good few orchestral players who play these....they aren't perfect but they are plenty good!

One word of advice. Take the mouthpiece that comes with it and bury it in a really deep hole. That thing is designed to injure!!!

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