9335CHSll and 9335NYSll vs original versions

[abundrefo]

Hello,

None of the search results I got answered this specific question so I'd like to ask what changed from 9335CHS and 9335NYS trumpets when they were updated to 9335CHSll and 9335NYSll, respectively.

I was talking to a friend that tried both new and old generations and he said the new generation is a lot better. But he does not own these horns and he couldn't explain exactly why. ...and what was that bad about the original version, to start with?

So, can anyone comment, considering technical and practical changes?

What changed from 9335CHS to 9335CHSll?
What changed from 9335NYS to 9335NYSll?

Thank you.

[andybharms]

I was talking to Bob Malone, the lead designer on the artist trumpet project, while he was working on my Chicago. He didn't go into too many specifics (I also didn't ask, because, well, I trust him), but did mention that the only component that did not change from the Chicago I to the Chicago II was the first valve slide.

I could speculate that the biggest changes were in the lead pipe but every part of the horn was tweaked slightly based on feedback from the Chicago I. People I know that bought one love it, but some people prefer the original.
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[BFlinch83]

I bought the NYII with the YM bell. It's an amazing horn! I owned a Gen 1 Chicago and have played the Gen 1 NY and didn't love either of them. The sound was always a little vanilla on the NY for me and the Chicago was too narrow of a blow. The NYII C is a perfect openness for me (like an efficient Bach). The tone is both warm and sparkling, not vanilla at all.

The YM bell is the one that the Boston Symphony helped design. I haven't played the YS bell that David Bilger helped design, but he loves that horn in Philly. I've heard that the YM is supposed to be a little more directional and the YS a little wider (think 239 vs. 229) but not sure. The YM is a very colorful sound.

I've owned MANY C trumpets (too many) and find this Yamaha to be the perfect combination of brilliance and warmth, openness but not too open, and great pitch. I'd highly suggest giving it a try.

I also played tested the NYII Bb trumpet. While its a great horn, I find that I get a little more out of my Shires Model AZ. The NYII plays great and is very even, but if anything it sounds like a C trumpet to me. Everyone that I played it for next to my Shires said that the Shires just had a more open and interesting sound.

[Mark Bradley]

You can find good deals on the Chicago and NYC I versions now that the II is out. One must ask "Are the new ones $2,000 better?"
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[abundrefo]

Look what I found.

It's in Spanish but it lists major changes in the 9335NYS. There are also a few pictures that spot some of the parts that were updated.

TROMPETA YAMAHA YTR 9335 NYS 02 EN SIb

- Nuevo modelo de marzo de 2016.
- Pesada.
- Campana de latón de 123 mm (4-7/8 pulgadas).
- Tuberia ML: 11,65 mm (0,459 pulgadas).
- Acabado: baño de plata.
- Boquilla: TR17B4.
- Rediseño de la campana en la unión con los pistones.
- Tudel más grueso que el diseño anterior, un estilo original Malone Pipe ™ MB2.
- Receptor de la boquilla más ligero.
- Diluyente caja de válvula y los pistones.
- Modificación del ángulo de entrada en la camisa (nudillo, marcado en azul en la foto).

[Hugh Anderson]

- New model of March 2016.
- Heavy.
- Brass bell of 123 mm (4-7 / 8 inches).
- ML pipe: 11.65 mm (0.459 inches).
- Finish: silver bath.
- Mouthpiece: TR17B4.
- Redesign of the bell in the union with the pistons.
- Tudel thicker than the previous design, an original Malone Pipe ™ MB2 style.
- Receiver of the lightest nozzle.
- Diluent valve box and pistons.
- Modification of the entry angle in the jacket

from google

[Albert Castillo]

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-instruments/winds/trumpets/c-trumpets/xeno_artist_models/ytr-9445nys_02/
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[LarsHusum]

The leadpipe on the CHII is a newer version compared to the old one. The CHII has a semi round tuning slide, where the CHI has a traditional D shaped slide.
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[Louise Finch]

[brianj]

[abundrefo]