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GOP Trumpet
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 2:40 pm    Post subject: Does anyone know which Latin style this is? Reply with quote

One of the things that confuses me regarding Latin music is the similarities between styles. Could someone tell me which style is being being played here and why you came to that conclusion? I think it's a son montuno but I'm not certain.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VPCsntJL58
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My somewhat informally informed but not textbook answer is that this is basically a jazz piece (and album, apparently) with latin elements. I can hear why you would think son montuno from the piano riffing at the beginning, but I wouldn't call this straight Cuban son montuno.

A bit of the percussion at the beginning reminded me of guaguanco.

But I would classify this as Latin Jazz, broadly speaking, rather than a particular Latin style.

Looking forward to more elucidation from those more informed. Standing ready to be corrected
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latin jazz isn't really a defined style . That's more of a generic term used to describe the various styles played in Latin music. Being that Conrad Herwig arranged this, I'm pretty sure he notated this as a specific style.

It's too slow to be a guaguanco. You're right, the piano riff at the beginning does signal to me it is a son montuno, which is typical for that style. Latin jazz drummers tend to put their own interpretation into more jazz oriented pieces like this. I guess I want to know from a percussion standpoint, could this be played as a son montuno, cha cha cha, guajira, or something else.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that was what you were getting at. Wish I knew enough to answer that. Although I vaguely remember reading that the clave patterns can be the key to what the percussion pattern will be. But I don't recall hearing a clave in that piece.

Looking forward to somebody weighing in.

OTOH, everything can be played as a polka.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like a Salsa to me, although keep in mind that there are differences in Salsas. I'm also by no means an expert - I played in a Latin band for a couple of years in the late 90s, and we played several distinct styles:

Merengue - This was our bread and butter
Cumbia
Bachatta
Salsa

We did a couple of other things too on occasion - a couple of Puntas, but it was mostly those four.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is in 2-3 clave and is not strictly following a “traditional” Salsa or Mambo style. It is loosely based on a Guajira with a mix of Boogaloo thrown in. Having a set player instead of the Timbolero gives it a totally different feel as well. It is a modern hybrid of latin styles. It could be described as, "Afro-Cuban".

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with my buddy Jon that it's an uptempo Guajira, and isn't what's referred to as "Tipica" or traditional. Being in a latin jazz context, it's open to interpretation by the players.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would identify it as salsa influenced.
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