What model is a Conn Naked Lady?

[kehaulani]

Title says it all. I just found out that the trumpet exists. I previously had a Naked Lady Conn sax that was killer. Looking to see if there is a matching trumpet with equally great tone and playability. Thanks. Kehaulani.
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[Richard III]

First one I've seen on a Conn 80A cornet is on Ebay now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Conn-80A-New-Wonder-Trumpet-Cornet-Naked-Lady-Engraving-/132263628052?hash=item1ecb86cd14:g:W7YAAOSwb~9Za9z2
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[1jazzyalex]

That ad .... if I were selling that on Ebay I'd sure as hell have at least one good photo close-up of the engraving.
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[snichols]

I'm sure you just want that horn "for the articles", right?

[Richard III]

Conn Connqueror Trumpets sometimes have the naked lady.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Dr.SoundGuy/photos/?tab=album&album_id=430502126969736
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[trumpet.trader]

I've seen cameos, or portraits on 20B "Wonde Symphony" few other models but never a vocal bell like the one posted above. They have been "Belle" engravings and sometimes more ornate and detailed than the naked lady like what's in the 10M and 6M saxes. The "Asian" themed engraving on that vocal bell I've seen in different variations before on different horns.

That cornet on eBay is the first I've seen with the naked lady like the saxophone's engraving.

*edit: I get confused with all of the old Conn models. After thinking about it, I may have meant 2B or 22B not 20B? I don't know it's been a while. But the engraving and portraits were ornate and beautiful. I've seen lacquer, silver and gold plate models with the extra engraving and cameos

[Richard III]

I have a friend with a baritone horn with the naked lady. We both fell in love with the horn when we saw it in the store. Beautiful tone too. Amazing we both could play it right away.
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[derekthor]

The story I heard about these is that there was a bar across the street from the Conn factory. The engravers would go there for lunch and naturally indulge a bit, then come back to the factory and engrave naked chicks on horns.

Another anecdote I've heard is that when they first started engraving women on instruments, it was only from the neck up. Over time they started adding more and more, waiting to be told off, but it never happened, leading to eventually the full naked lady.

[kehaulani]

I'm looking to see if there is a Naked Lady trumpet that is analogous to the 6M and 10M Conn saxes' mainly of the 40s, give or take. Thanks.
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[trumpet.trader]

Seems like a lost art. Is anybody doing hand engraving anymore?

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[GordonH]

I have a Conn 81A Victor New Wonder from 1921. It is the artist model with gold plating and engraving. The engraving is of the myth "Leda and the Swan" which is what some people refer to as the "Naked Lady". I am not sure why this myth was relevant to instruments. Different engravers did it and the quality varies.

From Wikipedia:

Leda and the Swan is a story and subject in art from Greek mythology in which the god Zeus, in the form of a swan, seduces Leda. According to later Greek mythology, Leda bore Helen and Polydeuces, children of Zeus, while at the same time bearing Castor and Clytemnestra, children of her husband Tyndareus, the King of Sparta. In the W. B. Yeats version, it is subtly suggested that Clytemnestra, although being the daughter of Tyndareus, has somehow been traumatized by what the swan has done to her mother (see below). According to many versions of the story, Zeus took the form of a swan and seduced Leda on the same night she slept with her husband King Tyndareus. In some versions, she laid two eggs from which the children hatched.[1] In other versions, Helen is a daughter of Nemesis, the goddess who personified the disaster that awaited those suffering from the pride of Hubris.
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[JoeLoeffler]

Just to clear this up in case someone has a question... There was no "Naked Lady" model. People are referring to bell engraving on horns (all different types and models) that include an art nude. Various types of fancy engraving could be ordered on (AFAIK) any of the Conn pro instruments.

[kehaulani]

[1jazzyalex]

I remember reading somewhere that the engravers who did a lot of the "Naked Lady" engravings were actually a fairly stodgy old couple.

Edit: A couple of fairly stodgy old brothers http://momie.org/thestenbergbrothershistory.html
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